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Article #1750Re: Arrest Slow Drivers--One County's Answer to Aggressive Driving
From: Steve Furbish
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:00
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 1998 00:00
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DataRat wrote: > Most DUI arrests he makes are off of > mundane traffic violations like running a > stop sign or failure to signal a lane change. That more than likely has something to do with the type of community you patrol DR? The inappropriate speeds and the weaving are definitely some of the standard indicators we see out here in the rural areas of NE. I can agree that the majority of DUI/OUI/DWI type arrests made by my officers or myself do result from the mundane traffic violations you speak of, but I think that's most likely because we tend to patrol certain areas more heavily than others? You can drive for miles on some "back road" and never see another car in either direction, but chances are when you do find one it'll be speeding, crawling, or weaving. Around town it's harder for the drunks to navigate without drawing attention to themselves with those "mundane violations". We end up stopping them before they become hypnotized by their own driving and doing the weave number.. > Most DUI drivers DON'T have slurred speech or > smell like a brewery. Again, I agree, but I would add that most have what can be described as "thick" speech and frequently either smell like they've been drinking or smell like they bathed in aftershave/perfume for a "cover scent". Lighting up a cigarette as the officer walks to the window is a dead giveaway that they don't think their breath will pass muster. > Even when an impaired driver is weaving, it's > rarely weaving between lanes like people > suppose. If they weave, it's usually weaving > within a lane -rather than between lanes. Absolutely. Impaired drivers can usually do at least one thing right at a time - it's the need or requirement for multitasking their efforts that often causes them to be exposed. > At 0.1 to almost 0.2, they'll NOT weave or go > much above or below the posted speed limit. > You won't be able to tell they're DUI until you've > given them a FST. At 0.2 thru 0.25, they might > weave within a lane, go too fast or two slow, > but mainly they'll make unsafe lane changes and > other errors in judgment. Not until above 0.25 > do they do the classic stuff like weave between > lanes, drive noticeably too fast or two slow, have > markedly slurred speech, etc. I think the above paragraph is entirely too subjective and it doesn't bear out the experiences that I've had over the years. While your categories might generally hold true I'd have to disagree with the BAC levels you use to draw the boundaries AND I'd also note that you can occasionally find 0.11 BAC's who seem "falling down drunk" as well as an occasional 0.30 BAC's who's only mistake was to have a headlight out and get stopped by an officer who knows how to do DWI's. Maine's limit is 0.08 and most of the DWI's I get (we call 'em OUI's) are between 0.11 and 0.19 BAC. Personally, I think the 0.14-0.16 bunch are some of the more dangerous ones we encounter because that's the area where they go from over-cautious (aware of their own state) to over-confident (actually thinking they're better off than they are). > Most people The DataRat pops for DUI are > right around 0.2 (usually just under). The second > largest group of such offenders he arrests are > just over 0.1 BAC. The former being known (locally, at least) as "gimmes" and the latter as working cop's DWI's.... ;-) > The guys above 0.25 you usually don't stop, but encounter instead at the > scenes of accidents. My personal all time high BAC on an conscious and ambulatory OUI was a 0.36. One officer in my department has had a 0.38. I've heard or a .043 (passed out at an accident scene) and a 0.47 (autopsy result)... Steve
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