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In article <36C8FE87.3464@stuff.com>,
  bryan <bryan@stuff.com> wrote:
> shape@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> >
> > In article <36C70B19.422@spamthis.com>,
> >   bryan <bryan@spamthis.com> wrote:
> > > shape@my-dejanews.com wrote:
> > > > They most certainly can!  My friend's 12 second Talon is his daily
driver.
> > > > It has a full interior.  There are a bunch of people with 11 second
> > > > daily drivers as well.  Probably a couple of people that use their 10
second
> > > > cars as daily drivers.
> > >
> > >       Is 12 seconds really that great?  My little car does it in about 15
> > > seconds with no modifications.  Sorry it just doesn't impress me.  I'm
> > > used to seeing John Force and the other guys do it in 2 - 3 seconds.
> >
> > It takes over 400hp to do the quarter mile in 12-seconds.  That is
> > double what a stock DSM comes with.
>
> 400hp?  I thought weight, transmission, etc played a major part...but
> 400hp?

Of course.  But for a normal weight DSM (3200lbs), it takes over 400hp.

> > What is your car?  My car would do the 1/4mi in 15 seconds when it was
> > stock.
>
> 98' sunfire gt.  nothing fancy.  its just my to/from work car.

Your car is relatively light.  But not *that* light.  To do the 1/4mi
in 15 seconds, you would need 163hp at the wheels (rough calculation).

Your car has 150hp.  Probably 135hp at the wheels.  The car weighs
2780lbs (including a 150lb person).  Best case rough approximation
of the ET your car could get in the 1/4mi is 15.97s.

Check out http://www2.dsm.org/tools/calchp.htm

Believe me, a drive in a 12 second car or even a 13 second car
feels like a rocket compared to a 15 second car.  You would need
to double your hp to go 13s in the 1/4mi.

> > Believe me, it isn't very easy to knock 3 seconds off your 1/4mi time.
> > And to do it in a full-weight car is even less common.
> >
> > And yea, John Force may be fast.  But he is paid to be fast and uses
> > a car who's engine is designed to be torn down after every race.  Go
> > figure that he is 9 seconds faster than most of us.
>
>   i guess...but my friends blown 40' ford could do it pretty fast too I
> bet...and it didn't cost him too much.

Not sure what your point was here.  Anyway, a Viper is a 12.something
second car.  So is a Lotus Elise.  They just do it in different ways.
DSMs prefer to do it the turbocharged way, which turns out to be a
pretty good way at making a small displacement engine output big hp :-)

Josh Wingell
'97 Eclipse GSX

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