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John P. Curcio wrote:
> 
> In article <33558C62.46E7@SPAMBLOCK.wmin.ac.uk>,
> Vince Young  <fsaec@SPAMBLOCK.wmin.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> >I agree with you totally about public transport Brian, but I'd not agree
> >that gas costs too much. Try driving in England...
> 
> I (and they) would prefer I didn't-- after all, they drive on the
> wrong side of the road ;-)...
> 
Not the wrong side, the other side. After all we were driving that side
when George Washington was a gleam in his mother's eye.

> >gas costs about 3
> >times the cost in the US.
> 
> That doesn't mean that it should cost three times what it does here in
> the US....
>
Yes, but maybe if you thought about how much it cost you'd also consider
how much you used and would be less likely to pollute so much. Perhaps
people might even force the politicians to deliver better transport
alternatives for them.
 
> >Maybe if the price of gas was increased people wouldn't go out and buy
> >those 4 by 4 s which have big ebgines.
> 
> Why do you wish to restrict the choice of vehicle which I choose to
> drive?
>
I never suggested restricting you. The Jeep Cherokee is sold in England
too.
I merely stated that maybe you'd consider its fuel efficiency more if
the cost to you was higher, the choice of which vehicle is still there,
no infringments on civil liberties here, no siree.
 
> >You don't need a car with a 4
> >litre engine, it's wasteful.
> 
> Again, this isn't up to you to decide.  Suppose I have a boat which I
> need to pull on a trailer.  Then may I please have a 4 litre engine?
> What if I want to put a snow plow on my vehicle, to make money [edit]
>
I never said you couldn't have one did I ???
It isn't up to me to decide if it's wasteful, nor for you, it's quite
simply a fact. How many people use their 4 by 4 to pull a boat or plough
snow ???? How many just have it beacuse they want to ?
I'm simply saying that those that contribute more in pollution ought to
be made aware, and the best way to do that is through their wallet,
especially in capitalist society like in the US.
 
> >My father in England has never had a car
> >over 2 litres and he still ........
> 
> I'm not about to tell him what he can and can't buy... just don't tell
> me what to drive.
>
Once again...... I DIDN'T !!!!!!!
 
> >I looked at the fuel efficiency rating of a Jeep Grand Cherokee once, 14
> >mpg in the city and about 18 on the open road, this is dreadful.
 
 Did it ever occur to you that the person who gets
> half the gas mileage as you also pays TWICE as much for gas, including
> TWICE the amount of tax money?  Those who use more pay more.  Wow,
> what an equitable situation!
> 
My, aren't we facetious today !

They also cause twice the pollution and consume twice the amount of
fossil fuels to get the same distance. That doesn't sound very fair to
anyone else does it ? Now what was that about liberty as long as it
doesn't harm anyone else ?????

If you can afford to pollute you can afford to pay up for it too. Still
got your precious choice, still got your all important decision, still
got all the roads to drive on, no changes there.

Vince