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soupdragon wrote:
> ozarkheart@yahoo.com wrote in news:tnepc8dk8tparnhumq1m2lqvsjukorolku@
> 4ax.com:
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>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 15:09:59 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon<me@privacy.net>
>> wrote:
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>>> ozarkheart@yahoo.com wrote in news:5p1pc816j3douclp90fm358tg6npj6rvvi@
>>> 4ax.com:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 13:23:36 +0000 (UTC), soupdragon<me@privacy.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Libertarian Lilly<LLil@nospam.com>  wrote in
>>>>> news:9K2dnXdI-OjhuazNnZ2dnUVZ5gGdnZ2d@giganews.com:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This couldn't have been done in one of the cowardly countries that
>>>>>> oppress the human rights to self defense and to keep and bear arms.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah. Those ghastly cowardly countries that don't allow loons
>>>>
>>>> So you think citizens are "loons"?
>>>
>>> No. Just those obsessed with owning guns.
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>> Clarify: Ar eyou saying that anyone who wants to own a gun is a loon?
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> No, I didn't say that either. You do like your strawmen. I said those
> _obsessed_ with owning guns.
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>>>
>>> Also I'd like to know which country denies you the right to defend
>>> yourself. Is this one of those mythical construct gun loons are
>>> so fond of?
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>> I haven't mentioned in this thread anything about "defending" one's
>> self.
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> Read the first two lines of the OP.
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>> However, the subject is guns.
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> The OP couched it in terms of 'human rights' and 'self defence'. He
> didn't even mention guns.
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>> And there are countries where the
>> government will deny a person to buy a gun for the express intent of
>> self defense.
>
> I know that. There are countries that also deny a person the right to
> buy missiles and heavy calibre machine guns for 'the express intent of
> self defence'. So what?



More stupid statements with no bearing,although there are some countries 
which try to deny smaller countries those rights.
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>>>>> guns and have a much lower violent crime rate as a result.
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>>>> Some do - some don't
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>>> Most do
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>> Present your data.
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>>> - a rare few don't and those are basket cases for
>>> other reasons anyway..
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