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In article <7jai65$s60@chronicle.concentric.net>,
  inusealready@yahoo.com (Preferred Customer) wrote:
> In article <7iueuo$ieh$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, USA_First <usa_first@my-
deja.com>
> wrote:
> > In article <300519991339013022%shrapnel@LICEenteract.com>,
> >   Allen James <shrapnel@LICEenteract.com> wrote:
> > > In article <7irqtl$ns$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, USA_First
> > > <usa_first@my-deja.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <374F633D.9E39331@bga.com>,
> > > >   Jim Herring <mustang@bga.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It ain't murder if he's in the act of robbing from the home.
> > > > >
>
> I totally agree! No time to have the fellow sit down and fill out a
> questionaire, clearing identifying his objective upon entering your
home!
> The presumption of ill-intend MUST, MUST be placed upon the
perpetrator
> and NOT THE VICTUM!!!
>


Which totally ignores the fact that within this thread, we were
discussing the hypothetical 12 year old exiting the window with a TV.
Can you discuss the threat that this child represents?


> > > >
> > > > You seem confused.  Robbery is basically taking property from
> > another
> > > > through force or fear.  Burglary is entering a dwelling to
generally
> > > > steal property.  One is in your face and the other is sneaky.
> > > >
> > > > What is making this difficult for you is the attempt to justify
> > > > homicide for a simple theft.  Law (and common decency) prohibit
such
> > > > acts.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Why do you believe an underage thief has more right to my home
and my
> > > property than I do?
> >
> >
> > When did I make that claim?
> >
> >
> > >Why do you believe I am not entitled to keep what I
> > > earn, and to use force to stop others from taking my posessions?
> > >
> >
> > Because the law and decency prohibit you from shooting someone for
> > taking property.  If you do not like this state of affairs, I
suggest
> > that you lobby your local representative.  Meanwhile, it is illegal
to
> > murder for a TV.  Are your views prevalent in the gun rights crowd?
> >
> >
> >
> > > Why do you believe a twelve-year-old thief and lawbreaker deserves
> > more
> > > rights than a 31-year-old law-abiding, hard-working citizen?
> > >
> >
> > I do not.  Please post my words to that effect.  One right you do
have
> > is to report the crime and have government legally administer
> > punishment.
> >
>
> That's pure fucking bullshit! The line was already crossed Mr.!
>

So you say.  Most reasonable people in this democracy believe that
courts of law determine guilt and that the police investigate crimes.
That is what our laws state in any case.


> >
> > > Were we all to heed the implicit message of your posts on this
> > subject,
> > > violence would be more prevalent and excusable.
> > >
> >
> > If we heeded yours, we would live in a vigilante society.
> >
>
> We (I) would be better off! It would be less chickenshit, more honest!
>

Maybe you can form your own government on an island somewhere.  Until
that time, you are bound by our laws.


> Let us know when you start eating solid food.
>

All out of substance already?


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> >
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