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In article <836686300snz@pcserv.demon.co.uk>
           paul@pcserv.demon.co.uk "Paul Carpenter" wrote:

>Point 1 I was talking about mail, which KA9Q doe *NO* inserting of '>'
>when RECEIVING a message, you are refereing to REPLYING to a message within
>PCELM and the like!

No, I'm not.  From smtpserv.c, KA9Q v2.16:

                /* for UNIX mail compatiblity */

                if (strncmp (p, "From ", 5) == 0)
                        (void) putc ('>', mp->data);

It inserts a '>' before every line starting with "From " (this is just
after it strips the first dot off a line starting with dot).

>I was NOT talking about NEWS I *was* refering to MAIL

Yes, I know.  I was pointing out that this mechanism, which *is* present
when receiving mail, is not needed for news because that uses other
methods of protecting itself.

>From experience in particular with PCELM and that just counting lines
>starting with 'From ' gets screwed up by the text in the _body_ of the
>message!

That text will not occur in the body of the message if you are receiving
it with KA9Q.  If you're using a different SMTP server then it might,
you'll need to talk to the author of that package to find out what their
mechanism is.

(You're not using some ancient version of KA9Q, are you?  There were
problems with quoting lines in some several years back; I thought they
were all to do with the dots, but it's possible that the "From " one was
fixed at the same time.)

>-There are lots of programs which hande mail fine with just the "From "
>-string (note, you have to match it at the start of the line, not
>
>Irrelevant to what was stated as ADDITIONAL unread messages appear
>which are 'From Somebody' because it has misinterpreted the headers!

Not for me they don't.

>I am fully aware of these items of software and I was referring to
>paragraghs in the _body_ of the text STARTING with 'From .....'

Which should not be there in the first place.  What mail server are you
using which is doing this?

>Tell me how many of your message headers of RECEIVED emails do NOT start
>
>From xyz@isp.co.*......
>Received: ..........

OK, you got me on that one.  KA9Q does insert at least one "Received:"
line...

>Tell me what happened with the test mail I sent you with at least one paragraph
>in the body starting
>
>From ......

I've replied, but so you can see what it looked like without further
mangling, here it is (if you want I'll uuencode it and send that as
well).  This is taken straight from ~/spool/mail/chris.txt, not via any
mailer.  You'll see that (a) there is no "Status" line (it hasn't been
read by a mailer) abd (b) the lines starting "From " all have '>' in
front of them.

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