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In article <1e9y7mh.s6w05b1uklue6N%tom@dfind.com>,
tom@dfind.com (Tom Warner) wrote:

> Has anyone managed to get 128K isdn with Demon?

Yes, on the still test number 08450798667 I can get 128K with my
Ignition pretty reliably. Please note: This is a *TEST* number and it
may be changed or messed around with at Demon's will without warning or
explanation. I only feel safe to mention it because Malcolm Muir has
mentioedn it a couple of times in demon.service.isdn.

I'm pretty sure Demon's view is that people are welcome to use this
number but in the event of problems they will get absolutely no support.

-Alan.


-- 
Alan Staniforth ** alan@apollonia.org
"Meum est propositum/In taberna mori,/Ut sint vina proxima/Morientis ori."
       -- Anon.

On Tue, 02 May 2000 21:43:43 +0100, Alan Staniforth <alan@apollonia.org> wrote:
>In article <1e9y7mh.s6w05b1uklue6N%tom@dfind.com>,
>tom@dfind.com (Tom Warner) wrote:
>
>> Has anyone managed to get 128K isdn with Demon?
>
>Yes, on the still test number 08450798667 I can get 128K with my
>Ignition pretty reliably. Please note: This is a *TEST* number and it
>may be changed or messed around with at Demon's will without warning or
>explanation. I only feel safe to mention it because Malcolm Muir has
>mentioedn it a couple of times in demon.service.isdn.

You are confused, the number you quote is not the test number. It is
the Red ROMP ISDN access number. Soon however it will be the Blue 128K
ISDN access ROMP.

>I'm pretty sure Demon's view is that people are welcome to use this
>number but in the event of problems they will get absolutely no support.

Not correct. 8667 is and always has been supported for 64K ISDN, it
will soon be formally supported for 128k.

-- 
Malcolm S. Muir                               Demon Internet
Sunderland                                    322 Regents Park Road
England                                       London N3 2QQ

In article <1e9y7mh.s6w05b1uklue6N%tom@dfind.com>,
tom@dfind.com (Tom Warner) wrote:

> Has anyone managed to get 128K isdn with Demon?

See demon.service.isdn .

Simon.
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http://www.hearsay.demon.co.uk | _Microsoft_ is going to write the software
No junk email please.          | that spies on me? I feel better already.
                               |                         -- John D. Goulden

<slavins@hearsay.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> See demon.service.isdn

Sorry, I guess I didn't make myself clear.

I know 128K is unsupported (as yet).

If you (anyone) has been reading demon.service.isdn you will know that
PC folk are getting 128K pretty regularly (some claim 100%).

I'm using a Mac (hence this ng) and I've _never_ gotten 128K.

I'm wondering if anyone using a Mac is getting 128K on a regular basis
and further, with what equipment.

I asked  on d.s.i if anyone with a Mac had managed it and got no
response so I thought I'd try here.

So: 

Has anyone managed to get 128K isdn with Demon??

TIA
Tom

-- 
"You keep either intentionally or
unintentionally trying to confuse the goals we had for
investing in the relationship (with Apple) with the
goals we had overall for investing in Apple." - Bill Gates 

In article <1ea18u3.okfaql171xnyqN%tom@dfind.com>,
tom@dfind.com (Tom Warner) wrote:

>I asked  on d.s.i if anyone with a Mac had managed it and got no
>response so I thought I'd try here.

Well Alan Staniforth has replied that he does, and he uses a Mac.

-- 
Peter

Alan Staniforth <alan@apollonia.org> wrote:

> Yes, on the still test number 08450798667 I can get 128K with my
> Ignition pretty reliably. 

Are you using Remote Access? What settings did you change to get 128K?

I've got a Zoom TA. I change the CCL to 64K ISDN MLPPP and I get the MLP
light on the box but the secound channel never picks up.

I've used ip net monitor to check speeds and  downloaded some test files
but I never get more than 8KBs.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

All the best,
Tom
7600/G3 400
8.6
R.A. 3.1.3

-- 
"You keep either intentionally or
unintentionally trying to confuse the goals we had for
investing in the relationship (with Apple) with the
goals we had overall for investing in Apple." - Bill Gates 

In article <1ea1vv3.1fax67ph07pyaN%tom@dfind.com>,
tom@dfind.com (Tom Warner) wrote:

> Alan Staniforth <alan@apollonia.org> wrote:
> 
> > Yes, on the still test number 08450798667 I can get 128K with my
> > Ignition pretty reliably. 
> 
> Are you using Remote Access? What settings did you change to get 128K?

System 8.6, OT 2.0.3, MacSLIP 3.0.4 or Remote Access according to how I
feel that day, BT Ignition.

> I've got a Zoom TA. I change the CCL to 64K ISDN MLPPP and I get the MLP
> light on the box but the secound channel never picks up.
> 
> I've used ip net monitor to check speeds and  downloaded some test files
> but I never get more than 8KBs.
> 
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated

Not using a Zoom I can't speak with any authority of experience but if
it is like the Ignition you may need to enter the numbers twice. However
you configure it the Ignition will not bring up the second channel
unless the dial command is:

ATD08450798667&08450798667

If the Zoom is the same, or similar then the CCL script may not do this
automatically with the number you enter in Remote Access and you may
have to enter 08450798667&08450798667 or the Zoom equivalent. I don't
need to do this now but it's a long while (years) since I first got this
working and I may have edited my Ignition CCL script so I only need to
have the number entered once in Remote Access.

Sorry I can't be much more help than this - it looks like an evening
with the Docs and a text editor may be needed.

-Alan.


-- 
Alan Staniforth ** alan@apollonia.org
"Meum est propositum/In taberna mori,/Ut sint vina proxima/Morientis ori."
       -- Anon.

Alan Staniforth <alan@apollonia.org> wrote:

> If the Zoom is the same, or similar then the CCL script may not do this
> automatically with the number you enter in Remote Access and you may
> have to enter 08450798667&08450798667 

YES!

Absolutely amazin'... I entered the number as above in R.A. and
connected at 128 first try.

Many thanks... I owe you a beer

All the best,
Tom

-- 
"You keep either intentionally or
unintentionally trying to confuse the goals we had for
investing in the relationship (with Apple) with the
goals we had overall for investing in Apple." - Bill Gates 

Tom Warner wrote:
> 
> <slavins@hearsay.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> > See demon.service.isdn
> 
> Sorry, I guess I didn't make myself clear.
> 
> I know 128K is unsupported (as yet).
> 
> If you (anyone) has been reading demon.service.isdn you will know that
> PC folk are getting 128K pretty regularly (some claim 100%).
> 
> I'm using a Mac (hence this ng) and I've _never_ gotten 128K.
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone using a Mac is getting 128K on a regular basis
> and further, with what equipment.
> 
> I asked  on d.s.i if anyone with a Mac had managed it and got no
> response so I thought I'd try here.
> 
> So:
> 
> Has anyone managed to get 128K isdn with Demon??
> 
> TIA
> Tom

I tried 128K BOD briefly a couple of weeks ago. Seemed to work as
expected. Using iMac, MacOS 8.6, Zyxel omni.net LCD plus USB TA.

Steve

In article <1ea18u3.okfaql171xnyqN%tom@dfind.com>,
tom@dfind.com (Tom Warner) wrote:

> I'm using a Mac (hence this ng) and I've _never_ gotten 128K.
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone using a Mac is getting 128K on a regular basis
> and further, with what equipment.

Sorry, Tom.  I misunderstood you.

Simon.
-- 
http://www.hearsay.demon.co.uk | _Microsoft_ is going to write the software
No junk email please.          | that spies on me? I feel better already.
                               |                         -- John D. Goulden

Tom Warner <tom@dfind.com> wrote:

> I'm wondering if anyone using a Mac is getting 128K on a regular basis
> and further, with what equipment.
> 
> Has anyone managed to get 128K isdn with Demon??

Just having tried I have had a very sucessful session at 128k (well,
128k when needed). 

Using a beige G3 with a ZyXel omni.net external TA on Home Highway and
on the 0845 079 8667 number. 

When just browsing a few pages it stayed connected on one channel only,
when downloading files it connected with both and download speeds of
12k, 2nd channel disconnected when finished. Only one try but it did
work. 

Antony <algy@allatsea.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> When just browsing a few pages it stayed connected on one channel only,
> when downloading files it connected with both and download speeds of
> 12k, 2nd channel disconnected when finished. Only one try but it did
> work. 

Is there someplace in your software where you specify 'bandwidth on
demand' ?

Also why aren't we getting double the single channel download speed?

All the best,
Tom
-- 
"You keep either intentionally or
unintentionally trying to confuse the goals we had for
investing in the relationship (with Apple) with the
goals we had overall for investing in Apple." - Bill Gates 

Tom Warner <tom@dfind.com> wrote:

> Is there someplace in your software where you specify 'bandwidth on
> demand' ?

In the Modem control panel .... which seems odd because it's a TA but I
can live with that little difference. I have a choice of protocols, 64k,
64k STAC, or 64k BOD .. so I just chose the latter. 
 
> Also why aren't we getting double the single channel download speed?

I suspect there's some loss to be exected in running two channels to
gather the same data, there has to be negotiation and checking so I
don't expect it to instantly double everything. 

But then I've never been that bothered with constantly monitoring the
download speeds so I don't give it too much atention unless it's
desperatly low. Just the way I've always worked (since 2400 modem days)
....