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Article #187

Re: Firewall blocks email - help!

#187
From: Jon Grieve
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 00:00
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Jann,

Thanks -- that would be very generous.  You can get my work address from our
Web site (URL in sig).

Regards,

Jon Grieve
Southdown House Software Ltd.
 --
http://www.southdown.co.uk




"jann" <jann@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:8qgi28$89q$1@lure.pipex.net...
> Jon - I've just realised that MS have sent us a duplicate of the SBS2000
> Beta disks.
> I owe you - so let me know if it would be useful if I mailed you a set (no
> obligation  :-)
>
> Jann
>
> "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:969636921.1042.0.nnrp-09.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk...
> > Jann,
> >
> > I'll check it out.  The whole "SBS 2000/Windows 2000 is rather DNSy" is
> the
> > main thing I'm worried about... ;-)
> >
> > Jon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "jann" <jann@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
> > news:8qfqn9$nau$1@lure.pipex.net...
> > > Hi Jon
> > >
> > > This should take you to the form:
> > > http://contact.microsoft.co.uk/directaccess/channelreadinesskit/
> > > (beta is free of charge)
> > >
> > > This will give you a taster (but is on the beta help cd anyway):
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/directaccess/products/sbs/crk/default.asp
> > >
> > > What is wrong with the email? - well, to be honest, your instructions
> for
> > > 4.0/4.5 have always worked so well out of the box, I never had the
> > incentive
> > > to take time to improve my Exchange Server knowledge!!! So, I don't
> really
> > > know how to define it.
> > > In a basic nutshell, outgoing mail stays in the server, and incoming
> > mail -
> > > doesn't. Exchange Server has been extremely revamped, so I have so far
> > been
> > > unable to 'guess' my way round like I used to.
> > > Could be to do with the domain stuff - we are 'myname.co.uk' with
Demon,
> > and
> > > on my first setup with SBS2000 - which is very DNSy - I accepted
> > > 'smallbusiness.local' (putting in 'myname.co.uk' at a later stage of
the
> > > wizard.
> > >
> > > Sorry, bit  out of my depth. Can't wait for you to get your beta (and
> > revise
> > > your instructions  :-)
> > >
> > > If you need any more info re the beta, let me know.
> > >
> > > Jann
> > >
> > > p.s. MS Direct Access are doing a free SBS roadshow in November - see
DA
> > > site.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > news:969611059.4920.0.nnrp-08.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk...
> > > > Jann,
> > > >
> > > > I don't have SBS2000 yet.  Not even sure when it's officially
released
> > in
> > > > the UK..?  You say you have a Beta, eh?  Where'd that come from?
> > > >
> > > > So, what does/doesn't work with ES2000 and Demon?
> > > >
> > > > Jon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "jann" <jann@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:8qdo3m$ith$1@lure.pipex.net...
> > > > > So - at last I meet THAT Jon!
> > > > >
> > > > > Your Southdown info on how to configure ES/SBS for Demon dial-up
is
> > one
> > > of
> > > > > my most quoted sources of reference.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, how do you feel about doing one for SBS2000 (i.e. Exchange
> Server
> > > > 2000)
> > > > > :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I only visited here tonight because I just received the SBS 2000
> Beta
> > > > pack,
> > > > > and everything works - except Demon mail send/receive   :-(
> > > > >
> > > > > If you ever revise your helpnotes, put me on the notification
> list!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > Jann
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > news:969264705.11415.0.nnrp-13.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk...
> > > > > > Miles,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You only need to configure Proxy to 'route' incoming connections
> if
> > > the
> > > > > > machine is behind the firewall.  On SBS, you don't need to do
> > anything
> > > > > > special.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've written up a FAQ on configuring Exchange with Demon.  You
can
> > > find
> > > > it
> > > > > > at my homepage (under Other FAQs), at:
> > > > > >   http://southdown.co.uk/users/jgrieve
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Jon
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Miles Gaynor" <mg@castlehoward.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:E604B4DA88E0D311B6A2009027E0197E09B56F@SBSSERVER...
> > > > > > > Hi John,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, Exchange 5.5 but on the same machine as Proxy. (its Small
> > > > business
> > > > > > > Server) The IPs of the punt cluster do change, but not very
> often.
> > > The
> > > > > > > weird thing is that if Demon send a mail kick, the mail comes
> > > through
> > > > on
> > > > > > > the same connection as was already present. If I had the IP of
> the
> > > > > > > mailserver wrong and I would expect the mail to fail even
after
> a
> > > mail
> > > > > > > kick. I don't think it can be a problem with port 25 and SMTP,
> > there
> > > > > > > must be something else that Demon use to ID you apart from the
> > > > > > > Username/password as you log on.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > either that or i am totally wrong. (It has been known!)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Miles
> > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > >From: Jon Grieve [mailto:jgrieve@southdown.co.uk]
> > > > > > > >Posted At: Thursday, September 14, 2000 4:30 PM
> > > > > > > >Posted To: nt
> > > > > > > >Conversation: Firewall blocks email - help!
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Firewall blocks email - help!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Miles,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >First, I don't think you can IP addresses for the punt
> > > > > > > >cluster, as they may
> > > > > > > >change.  However, for testing, this should work for the
> interim.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >So, what mail server are you using?  Exchange?  Is it running
> > > > > > > >on another
> > > > > > > >machine 'behind' Proxy?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Jon
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >"Miles Gaynor" <mg@castlehoward.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > >news:E604B4DA88E0D311B6A2009027E0197E099060@SBSSERVER...
> > > > > > > >> Hi Folks,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I am trying to receive email through MS Proxy 2.0 from
demon
> > > > > > > >but when I
> > > > > > > >> enable IP filtering I don't receive any email. I have made
> > > several
> > > > > > > >> filters with  port 25 as smtp and the remote host as one of
> > > > > > > >demons mail
> > > > > > > >> servers (I think I have covered all of demons mail server
> IPs)
> > > but
> > > > no
> > > > > > > >> joy.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Also, If I connect and ask Demon help to do a mail kick
> > > > > > > >while I am still
> > > > > > > >> connected, the mail comes in fine so it seems that demon
> > > > > > > >don't recognise
> > > > > > > >> me when I have dialed up. Does anyone know how this could
be
> > > > > > > >solved so
> > > > > > > >> that I can have my firewall active but receive mail from
> demon?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I did try opening the Ident port, but with no joy (but I'm
> > > > > > > >not to clear
> > > > > > > >> on how this one works)
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> TIA
> > > > > > > >> Miles
> > > > > > > >>
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> > > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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From: "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Firewall blocks email - help!
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