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Article #188Re: Firewall blocks email - help!
From: jann
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 00:00
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Will do... give me a day or so to get my act together! "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message news:969873731.24165.0.nnrp-10.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk... > Jann, > > Thanks -- that would be very generous. You can get my work address from our > Web site (URL in sig). > > Regards, > > Jon Grieve > Southdown House Software Ltd. > -- > http://www.southdown.co.uk > > > > > "jann" <jann@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message > news:8qgi28$89q$1@lure.pipex.net... > > Jon - I've just realised that MS have sent us a duplicate of the SBS2000 > > Beta disks. > > I owe you - so let me know if it would be useful if I mailed you a set (no > > obligation :-) > > > > Jann > > > > "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:969636921.1042.0.nnrp-09.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk... > > > Jann, > > > > > > I'll check it out. The whole "SBS 2000/Windows 2000 is rather DNSy" is > > the > > > main thing I'm worried about... ;-) > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jann" <jann@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message > > > news:8qfqn9$nau$1@lure.pipex.net... > > > > Hi Jon > > > > > > > > This should take you to the form: > > > > http://contact.microsoft.co.uk/directaccess/channelreadinesskit/ > > > > (beta is free of charge) > > > > > > > > This will give you a taster (but is on the beta help cd anyway): > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/directaccess/products/sbs/crk/default.asp > > > > > > > > What is wrong with the email? - well, to be honest, your instructions > > for > > > > 4.0/4.5 have always worked so well out of the box, I never had the > > > incentive > > > > to take time to improve my Exchange Server knowledge!!! So, I don't > > really > > > > know how to define it. > > > > In a basic nutshell, outgoing mail stays in the server, and incoming > > > mail - > > > > doesn't. Exchange Server has been extremely revamped, so I have so far > > > been > > > > unable to 'guess' my way round like I used to. > > > > Could be to do with the domain stuff - we are 'myname.co.uk' with > Demon, > > > and > > > > on my first setup with SBS2000 - which is very DNSy - I accepted > > > > 'smallbusiness.local' (putting in 'myname.co.uk' at a later stage of > the > > > > wizard. > > > > > > > > Sorry, bit out of my depth. Can't wait for you to get your beta (and > > > revise > > > > your instructions :-) > > > > > > > > If you need any more info re the beta, let me know. > > > > > > > > Jann > > > > > > > > p.s. MS Direct Access are doing a free SBS roadshow in November - see > DA > > > > site. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message > > > > news:969611059.4920.0.nnrp-08.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk... > > > > > Jann, > > > > > > > > > > I don't have SBS2000 yet. Not even sure when it's officially > released > > > in > > > > > the UK..? You say you have a Beta, eh? Where'd that come from? > > > > > > > > > > So, what does/doesn't work with ES2000 and Demon? > > > > > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jann" <jann@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:8qdo3m$ith$1@lure.pipex.net... > > > > > > So - at last I meet THAT Jon! > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Southdown info on how to configure ES/SBS for Demon dial-up > is > > > one > > > > of > > > > > > my most quoted sources of reference. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, how do you feel about doing one for SBS2000 (i.e. Exchange > > Server > > > > > 2000) > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > I only visited here tonight because I just received the SBS 2000 > > Beta > > > > > pack, > > > > > > and everything works - except Demon mail send/receive :-( > > > > > > > > > > > > If you ever revise your helpnotes, put me on the notification > > list!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Jann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message > > > > > > news:969264705.11415.0.nnrp-13.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk... > > > > > > > Miles, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You only need to configure Proxy to 'route' incoming connections > > if > > > > the > > > > > > > machine is behind the firewall. On SBS, you don't need to do > > > anything > > > > > > > special. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've written up a FAQ on configuring Exchange with Demon. You > can > > > > find > > > > > it > > > > > > > at my homepage (under Other FAQs), at: > > > > > > > http://southdown.co.uk/users/jgrieve > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Miles Gaynor" <mg@castlehoward.co.uk> wrote in message > > > > > > > news:E604B4DA88E0D311B6A2009027E0197E09B56F@SBSSERVER... > > > > > > > > Hi John, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Exchange 5.5 but on the same machine as Proxy. (its Small > > > > > business > > > > > > > > Server) The IPs of the punt cluster do change, but not very > > often. > > > > The > > > > > > > > weird thing is that if Demon send a mail kick, the mail comes > > > > through > > > > > on > > > > > > > > the same connection as was already present. If I had the IP of > > the > > > > > > > > mailserver wrong and I would expect the mail to fail even > after > > a > > > > mail > > > > > > > > kick. I don't think it can be a problem with port 25 and SMTP, > > > there > > > > > > > > must be something else that Demon use to ID you apart from the > > > > > > > > Username/password as you log on. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > either that or i am totally wrong. (It has been known!) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Miles > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > >From: Jon Grieve [mailto:jgrieve@southdown.co.uk] > > > > > > > > >Posted At: Thursday, September 14, 2000 4:30 PM > > > > > > > > >Posted To: nt > > > > > > > > >Conversation: Firewall blocks email - help! > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Firewall blocks email - help! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Miles, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >First, I don't think you can IP addresses for the punt > > > > > > > > >cluster, as they may > > > > > > > > >change. However, for testing, this should work for the > > interim. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >So, what mail server are you using? Exchange? Is it running > > > > > > > > >on another > > > > > > > > >machine 'behind' Proxy? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Jon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Miles Gaynor" <mg@castlehoward.co.uk> wrote in message > > > > > > > > >news:E604B4DA88E0D311B6A2009027E0197E099060@SBSSERVER... > > > > > > > > >> Hi Folks, > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> I am trying to receive email through MS Proxy 2.0 from > demon > > > > > > > > >but when I > > > > > > > > >> enable IP filtering I don't receive any email. I have made > > > > several > > > > > > > > >> filters with port 25 as smtp and the remote host as one of > > > > > > > > >demons mail > > > > > > > > >> servers (I think I have covered all of demons mail server > > IPs) > > > > but > > > > > no > > > > > > > > >> joy. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Also, If I connect and ask Demon help to do a mail kick > > > > > > > > >while I am still > > > > > > > > >> connected, the mail comes in fine so it seems that demon > > > > > > > > >don't recognise > > > > > > > > >> me when I have dialed up. Does anyone know how this could > be > > > > > > > > >solved so > > > > > > > > >> that I can have my firewall active but receive mail from > > demon? > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> I did try opening the Ident port, but with no joy (but I'm > > > > > > > > >not to clear > > > > > > > > >> on how this one works) > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> TIA > > > > > > > > >> Miles > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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