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Re: Firewall blocks email - help!

#188
From: jann
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 00:00
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Will do... give me a day or so to get my act together!

"Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message
news:969873731.24165.0.nnrp-10.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk...
> Jann,
>
> Thanks -- that would be very generous.  You can get my work address from
our
> Web site (URL in sig).
>
> Regards,
>
> Jon Grieve
> Southdown House Software Ltd.
>  --
> http://www.southdown.co.uk
>
>
>
>
> "jann" <jann@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
> news:8qgi28$89q$1@lure.pipex.net...
> > Jon - I've just realised that MS have sent us a duplicate of the SBS2000
> > Beta disks.
> > I owe you - so let me know if it would be useful if I mailed you a set
(no
> > obligation  :-)
> >
> > Jann
> >
> > "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:969636921.1042.0.nnrp-09.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk...
> > > Jann,
> > >
> > > I'll check it out.  The whole "SBS 2000/Windows 2000 is rather DNSy"
is
> > the
> > > main thing I'm worried about... ;-)
> > >
> > > Jon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "jann" <jann@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
> > > news:8qfqn9$nau$1@lure.pipex.net...
> > > > Hi Jon
> > > >
> > > > This should take you to the form:
> > > > http://contact.microsoft.co.uk/directaccess/channelreadinesskit/
> > > > (beta is free of charge)
> > > >
> > > > This will give you a taster (but is on the beta help cd anyway):
> > > > http://www.microsoft.com/directaccess/products/sbs/crk/default.asp
> > > >
> > > > What is wrong with the email? - well, to be honest, your
instructions
> > for
> > > > 4.0/4.5 have always worked so well out of the box, I never had the
> > > incentive
> > > > to take time to improve my Exchange Server knowledge!!! So, I don't
> > really
> > > > know how to define it.
> > > > In a basic nutshell, outgoing mail stays in the server, and incoming
> > > mail -
> > > > doesn't. Exchange Server has been extremely revamped, so I have so
far
> > > been
> > > > unable to 'guess' my way round like I used to.
> > > > Could be to do with the domain stuff - we are 'myname.co.uk' with
> Demon,
> > > and
> > > > on my first setup with SBS2000 - which is very DNSy - I accepted
> > > > 'smallbusiness.local' (putting in 'myname.co.uk' at a later stage of
> the
> > > > wizard.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry, bit  out of my depth. Can't wait for you to get your beta
(and
> > > revise
> > > > your instructions  :-)
> > > >
> > > > If you need any more info re the beta, let me know.
> > > >
> > > > Jann
> > > >
> > > > p.s. MS Direct Access are doing a free SBS roadshow in November -
see
> DA
> > > > site.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > news:969611059.4920.0.nnrp-08.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk...
> > > > > Jann,
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have SBS2000 yet.  Not even sure when it's officially
> released
> > > in
> > > > > the UK..?  You say you have a Beta, eh?  Where'd that come from?
> > > > >
> > > > > So, what does/doesn't work with ES2000 and Demon?
> > > > >
> > > > > Jon
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "jann" <jann@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:8qdo3m$ith$1@lure.pipex.net...
> > > > > > So - at last I meet THAT Jon!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Your Southdown info on how to configure ES/SBS for Demon dial-up
> is
> > > one
> > > > of
> > > > > > my most quoted sources of reference.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, how do you feel about doing one for SBS2000 (i.e. Exchange
> > Server
> > > > > 2000)
> > > > > > :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I only visited here tonight because I just received the SBS 2000
> > Beta
> > > > > pack,
> > > > > > and everything works - except Demon mail send/receive   :-(
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you ever revise your helpnotes, put me on the notification
> > list!!!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > Jann
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Jon Grieve" <jgrieve@southdown.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:969264705.11415.0.nnrp-13.d4f0f5e4@news.demon.co.uk...
> > > > > > > Miles,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You only need to configure Proxy to 'route' incoming
connections
> > if
> > > > the
> > > > > > > machine is behind the firewall.  On SBS, you don't need to do
> > > anything
> > > > > > > special.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I've written up a FAQ on configuring Exchange with Demon.  You
> can
> > > > find
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > at my homepage (under Other FAQs), at:
> > > > > > >   http://southdown.co.uk/users/jgrieve
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > Jon
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Miles Gaynor" <mg@castlehoward.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:E604B4DA88E0D311B6A2009027E0197E09B56F@SBSSERVER...
> > > > > > > > Hi John,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, Exchange 5.5 but on the same machine as Proxy. (its
Small
> > > > > business
> > > > > > > > Server) The IPs of the punt cluster do change, but not very
> > often.
> > > > The
> > > > > > > > weird thing is that if Demon send a mail kick, the mail
comes
> > > > through
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > > the same connection as was already present. If I had the IP
of
> > the
> > > > > > > > mailserver wrong and I would expect the mail to fail even
> after
> > a
> > > > mail
> > > > > > > > kick. I don't think it can be a problem with port 25 and
SMTP,
> > > there
> > > > > > > > must be something else that Demon use to ID you apart from
the
> > > > > > > > Username/password as you log on.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > either that or i am totally wrong. (It has been known!)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Miles
> > > > > > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > >From: Jon Grieve [mailto:jgrieve@southdown.co.uk]
> > > > > > > > >Posted At: Thursday, September 14, 2000 4:30 PM
> > > > > > > > >Posted To: nt
> > > > > > > > >Conversation: Firewall blocks email - help!
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Firewall blocks email - help!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Miles,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >First, I don't think you can IP addresses for the punt
> > > > > > > > >cluster, as they may
> > > > > > > > >change.  However, for testing, this should work for the
> > interim.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >So, what mail server are you using?  Exchange?  Is it
running
> > > > > > > > >on another
> > > > > > > > >machine 'behind' Proxy?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Jon
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >"Miles Gaynor" <mg@castlehoward.co.uk> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > >news:E604B4DA88E0D311B6A2009027E0197E099060@SBSSERVER...
> > > > > > > > >> Hi Folks,
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I am trying to receive email through MS Proxy 2.0 from
> demon
> > > > > > > > >but when I
> > > > > > > > >> enable IP filtering I don't receive any email. I have
made
> > > > several
> > > > > > > > >> filters with  port 25 as smtp and the remote host as one
of
> > > > > > > > >demons mail
> > > > > > > > >> servers (I think I have covered all of demons mail server
> > IPs)
> > > > but
> > > > > no
> > > > > > > > >> joy.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Also, If I connect and ask Demon help to do a mail kick
> > > > > > > > >while I am still
> > > > > > > > >> connected, the mail comes in fine so it seems that demon
> > > > > > > > >don't recognise
> > > > > > > > >> me when I have dialed up. Does anyone know how this could
> be
> > > > > > > > >solved so
> > > > > > > > >> that I can have my firewall active but receive mail from
> > demon?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I did try opening the Ident port, but with no joy (but
I'm
> > > > > > > > >not to clear
> > > > > > > > >> on how this one works)
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> TIA
> > > > > > > > >> Miles
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From: "jann" <jann@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: Firewall blocks email - help!
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