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On Tuesday, in article
     <20120724.1016.929403snz@twoplaces.co.uk>
     simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" wrote:

> On Monday, in article
>      <20120723.2213.522snz@cj4386.demon.co.uk>
>      colin@cj4386.demon.co.uk "colin may" wrote:
>
> > On Monday, in article
> >      <20120723.1659.929275snz@twoplaces.co.uk>
> >      simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" wrote:
> >
> > > Q2. How would I know whether KA9Q-type POP3 collection will work or not?
> > >
> > > A2. Try a normal text (i.e. unencrypted) POP3 session to the new server.
> > >     [...]
> > >
> > >     Run "telnet mail.demon.co.uk 110" and you should get a dialogue with
> > >     the new POP3 server somewhat like this [...]
> > >
> > > If the new platform will accept plain unenecrypted POP3 for mail
> > > collection, I've got a version of GremNOS with POP3 collection
> > > integrated in to the SMTP system that may work for you...
>
> > Bit over my head, but I tried the "telnet mail.demon.co.uk 110" it
> > came back with the message "pop3 microsoft exchange ready ok" typing
> > anyhing after this sends back the message "error protocol 19". I tried
> > to email you, no go.  Must have been migrated.
>
> I did eventually receive your mail this morning; your first attempt to
> send it probably fell foul of the "greylisting" applied by the people
> who host my domain, whereby they initially refuse to accept the mail
> with a temporary error, then if you try again after five minutes or so
> they will accept it.  (This is an anti-spam measure: spammers often give
> up if the first attempt doesn't work, but proper mail systems should
> continue to try sending it and eventually get through.)
>
> So at least your outbound sending works; but I doubt you'll see my
> reply, because it went to the new platform -- mx1.demon.co.uk -- rather
> than punt-*.demon.net as would have been the case before migration.
>
> (Raising the SMTP tracing level will let you see the initial 220
> response from the server, which is quite different on the new platform:
> "220 smtp.demon.co.uk ESMTP" rather than the old "220
> anchor-hub.mail.demon.net ESMTP <date>".)
>
> Disappointing to hear that telnetting to the new POP3 server didn't
> work; is there any chance you could try it again, and tell us *exactly*
> what it said before you started typing?  And exactly what you typed (if
> anything) before it produced the error?  (Obscure hostnames and/or
> passwords by all means, but otherwise let us know the precise keys you
> pressed.)  Protocol error 19 from MS Exchange seems to mean
> "unrecognised command", which suggests it might be some kind of typo
> rather than something more fundamental.  (Fingers crossed...)
>
> I can run some tests for myself once I've been migrated tomorrow
> afternoon, but the one aspect of your setup I can't reproduce is a
> direct connection from a Demon host rather than an external one (I
> haven't connected through Demon for years, and don't particularly want
> to have to find a modem, an old machine with a serial port etc. just so
> I can try it.)
>
> > Version of KA9Q is gremnos v0.3d.
>
> OK, thanks.  Could you tell me the size of the NET.EXE file in bytes, so
> I can work out which of the five possible variants you're using?
>

High Simon,

Went to bed and relised I hadn't activated the account (getting old and all
that). I'll be doing it this afternoon and let you know how it went, here's
hoping.

Gremnos v0.3d large 394524 bytes.