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On Wednesday, in article
     <20120725.1643.929496snz@twoplaces.co.uk>
     simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" wrote:

> On Tuesday, in article
>      <20120724.1016.929403snz@twoplaces.co.uk>
>      simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" wrote:
>
> > I can run some tests for myself once I've been migrated tomorrow
> > afternoon, but the one aspect of your setup I can't reproduce is a
> > direct connection from a Demon host rather than an external one (I
> > haven't connected through Demon for years, and don't particularly want
> > to have to find a modem, an old machine with a serial port etc. just so
> > I can try it.)
>
> Brief post-migration follow-up: from my non-Demon IP, I can use
> plain-text POP3 to port 110 and get at the messages, so (unless this is
> a temporary ability or Demon subsequently decide to remove it) I can
> retrieve messages from the new mail.demon.co.uk server with my
> POP3-enabled version of GremNOS.  Phew!
>
> I'm not quite sure whether the same is true from a Demon IP address,
> since Colin is still unable to get plain-text POP3 to work, but I'm
> hoping that turns out to be finger trouble; I can't imagine even Demon,
> with their legendary ability to get things wrong, insisting on encrypted
> POP3 session from within Demon but not from without.  Of course, ICBW.
>
> However, I discovered that my GremNOS code was unable to pick out the
> MAIL FROM address from the Return-Path: header field, because (shock!
> horror!) the Return-Path: field created by the oh-so-wonderful new
> platform is non-compliant with the RFCs defining the SMTP message
> format.  Why am I not surprised?  So I'll have to fix my code to work
> around the broken new platform before it's ready for release; sorry
> about that!
>
> (If you want to know, all of the SMTP message format RFCs -- 822, 2822
> and 5322, which is the latest one -- require the Return-Path: field to
> have an address enclosed in angle brackets; but the new platform doesn't
> include the brackets.  Good old MS!)
>
> So, tentatively for now, there does appear to be Life After Migration.
>

Still having no luck logging on to the new mail platform, below is what I do.

telnet mail.demon.co.uk 110
Resolving mail.demon.co.uk... trying 91.221.168.28:110
Telnet session 1 connected to mail.demon.co.uk
+OK The Microsoft Exchange POP3 service is ready.

I type in username and get the message
-ERR Protocol error  19
Type in password and get the message
-ERR Protocol error  19
Press enter again and get the message
-ERR Protocol error 20
Telnet session 1 closed: EOF
Hit enter to ccontinue

I don't think I'm doing anything wrong (might be of course). It might be as
Simon says above.