🚀 go-pugleaf

	- hi; in article, <20120725.1643.929496snz@twoplaces.co.uk>,
	     simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" appended:
>	      simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" wrote:
>> I can run some tests for myself once I've been migrated tomorrow
>> afternoon, but the one aspect of your setup I can't reproduce is a
>> direct connection from a Demon host rather than an external one (I
>> haven't connected through Demon for years, and don't particularly want
>> to have to find a modem, an old machine with a serial port etc. just so
>> I can try it.)
>
>Brief post-migration follow-up: from my non-Demon IP, I can use plain-
>text POP3 to port 110 and get at the messages, so (unless this is a
>temporary ability or Demon subsequently decide to remove it) I can
>retrieve messages from the new mail.demon.co.uk server with my POP3-
>enabled version of GremNOS.  Phew!

	- phew, indeed!
>
>I'm not quite sure whether the same is true from a Demon IP address,
>since Colin is still unable to get plain-text POP3 to work, but I'm
>hoping that turns out to be finger trouble; I can't imagine even Demon,
>with their legendary ability to get things wrong, insisting on encrypted
>POP3 session from within Demon but not from without.

	- not yet been forcibly migrated, thank any divinities there be.

>Of course, ICBW.

	- fniggers, yees, gels'n'rams lla corseds. dan choutnig odow...
>
>However, I discovered that my GremNOS code was unable to pick out the
>MAIL FROM address from the Return-Path: header field, because (shock!
>horror!) the Return-Path: field created by the oh-so-wonderful new
>platform is non-compliant with the RFCs defining the SMTP message
>format.  Why am I not surprised?  So I'll have to fix my code to work
>around the broken new platform before it's ready for release; sorry
>about that!

	- watching developments with definite interest, though i've not
	very much to contribute, alas.
>
>(If you want to know, all of the SMTP message format RFCs -- 822, 2822
>and 5322, which is the latest one -- require the Return-Path: field to
>have an address enclosed in angle brackets; but the new platform doesn't
>include the brackets.  Good old MS!)

	- *sigh*  - though i do all i can to avoid them, clueless and
	witless impose 'em upon me - and thee, since thou'rt so good as
	to do the work to provide the few of us with a gremnos usable
	after this self-inspired stroke by them.
>
>So, tentatively for now, there does appear to be Life After Migration.

	- as loyal subjects of his original demonic majesty (and his
	allegedly legitimate successors), should we not have a right to
	remain upon the original system to which we signed up? (- [a])

	- thanks for persisting, simon;

	- love, a ppint. who's done nothing of effect towards finding
	out how to do broadband using (dr/ibm/ms-)dos yet, being some-
	what distracted by a (non-life-threatening) health problem

	[a] - dept. of devout *wishes*

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