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Re: PCOak: "quoted-printable" - aaaargh!

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From: Ian
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:04
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simon@twoplaces.co.uk wrote:

> On Tuesday, in article <20070724.1449.7145snz@flashy.nut>
>      sum1@flashy.nut "Ian" wrote:
> 
> > Bill@lyons.demon.co.uk wrote:
> >
>
> > between words,  perhaps I'm not saving much e-mail to a file.
>
> Only some (extremely badly-written) software does it; I haven't yet
> worked out exactly what.  Most software does q-p encoding properly,
> only encoding spaces when they occur at the ends of lines (as required
> by the RFC).  This is fairly easy to deal with.
>
I'll see if I can see from his header on the nextmessage what he is
using to write  e-mail.
...
> > IN case they vanish or something, it is the Greek character thatis an A
> > and an E joined together.  I think the aSCII number is 92.
> >  ...
> >  hasn�t
> >  There�s
> > ...
>
....
> Unfortunately some (mostly Micro$oft) software tries to be "clever"
> with apostrophes and puts them in as closing single quotes (0x92)
> rather than normal ASCII apostrophes; you sometimes get the same thing
> with double quotes as well (characters 0x93 and 0x94 as the opening
> and closing pairs).  While this is fine for word processing software,
> it's a rather silly thing to do (IMNSHO) with e-mail!
>
Yes, double quote marks do in his messages appear as another symbol. He
sent me some short stories to read and suggest improvements, and of
course  it included dialogue.  I just used the Find and Replace utility
in my editor   to fix it.
I use a screen reader as you may recall, so it sounded distinctly odd
when it read these characters instead  of just ignoring the single and
double quote characters.

> When I get back to PCOak, among the many things I'm intending to do is
> put in handling for the common character sets (Windows-1252,
> ISO-8859-1 (which is a subset of Windows-1252) etc.) so that
> non-7bit-ASCII characters in incoming messages get replaced by their
> nearest equivalent in the local code page before being displayed,
> quoted in replies etc.  PCOak's handling of MIME messages leaves a lot
> to be desired.
>
certainly does, even in the version I have.
I'll look for the announcement of your improved one. It sounds to me like a
fairly  major  bit of work.
--
Ian
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Subject: Re: PCOak: "quoted-printable" - aaaargh!
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