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Re: windows mailer mangling some e-addresses, causing bounces with gremnos (was: punt-3 or mailstore is [ditto])

#940
From: pete
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:45
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In article  <20070725.0757.834298snz@twoplaces.co.uk>
           simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" writes:

> On Tuesday, in article <1185306786snz@nospam.demon.co.uk>
>      pete@nospam.demon.co.uk wrote:
> 
> > In article <20070723.2111.834131snz@twoplaces.co.uk>
> >            simon@twoplaces.co.uk "Simon Turner" writes:
> 
> > > 960 and counting.
> > 
> > And finished counting too!  This reply would have bust the 1000 
> > without intervention, though I have to admit it was rather more 
> > manual than I might have wished for; my original fix would have 
> > worked, though it was trimming references: _before_ replying :-(  
> > Somewhat too fail-safe --  a bit more work still to do on 
> > post_header()...
> 
> Ah; sigh.  But better than this 2001-era-JLW-based one, which does all
> the folding etc. properly, but doesn't worry about the length of the
> unfolded result at all (I had to remove the second entry to get the
> unfolded length back to below 1000 chars).

BTDT, though fingers-crossed now fixed (this Snews, not the jlw 
one); References: line now trimmed as necessary on load, and 
again as required on reply.  I've no doubt that there is plenty 
of room for code-polishing, but I'll leave that until running out 
of memory dictates...

> > > (b) my father
> > > agreed about the Vulcan's manoeuvrability, describing it as handling
> > > like a fighter and being a wonderful aircraft to fly.
> > 
> > Re: (b) Having seen the Vulcan fly at various displays over the 
> > years, I'm not surprised -- though I guess when fully loaded it 
> > would have been somewhat more sedate.
> 
> I'm quite sure it would have been!  My mind still boggles at anything
> that size being as manoeuvrable as it clearly was, even when empty.

Big wing area flying on vortex generated lift, especially at high 
angle of attack.  One just needs enough thrust to overcome the 
drag -- and 4 x Olympus 593 provides [provided <*sigh*>] that!

> (On a related note, I recall a brief glimpse, on the TV coverage of
> Concorde's final day, of one of them doing a "performance" take-off
> and climb-out at the start of its final flight back to Heathrow; never
> seen the footage since, but it was *very* impressive.)

And for the same reason :-)  And whilst afterburners might not be 
the most efficient way to minimise the carbon footprint, they are 
*impressive*

> > Did your father have 
> > anything to do with the HP-115 or BAC Type 221?  Just being nosy.
> 
> I believe he flew the HP-115 (I remember him pointing it out to me in
> the RNAS Yeovilton museum many years ago), although I don't think he
> was heavily involved in that project; not sure about the BAC Type
> 221.  I'd have to check his log books to be sure!

I'd be interested.  You might want not to share this with with 
the whole of usenet, so email would be fine; still being nosy ;-)

> > > You need to get the two halves of your ISP arrangements sorted out:
> > > news is *so* much faster by ADSL!
> > 
> > I don't doubt it.  I guess I could try to track down a wifi card 
> > for this DOS PC and the software to drive it, but likely I'd lose 
> > 100K or more of conventional memory.
> 
> Any particular reason why a wi-fi card, rather than a normal ethernet
> card plus some cable to the router?

Cables.

>  Packet drivers are much easier to
> come by for normal cards (some even don't cost much, if any,
> conventional memory IIRC -- but it's been a few years since I ran a
> DOS-only machine for net access).

The last time I tried (at work) the required M$ drivers decided 
that they had to reside in the base 640K and consumed 200K of it.  
Not something I'd be keen to do here.

Pete
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From: pete@nospam.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: demon.ip.support.pc
Subject: Re: windows mailer mangling some e-addresses, causing bounces with gremnos (was: punt-3 or mailstore is [ditto])
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