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[ Followups to an on topic newsgroup - background information for that group:
  Demon provide whole domain SMTP in both directions, but don't offer UUCP;
  POP3 is added cost, but inappropriate here anyway. ]

In article <328B876C.2AC1@kingedp.demon.co.uk>,
Roger Wearn  <wn@kingedp.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>As a school Netware administrator I want to set up our Pmail for Windows
>to send and receive internet mail.
>
>Any of our 1000 users are able to use the system on our LAN but at the
>moment users can only email outgoing internet mail via Netscape and I
>have to get all incoming email via Turnpike!

[ Turnpike is a single machine integrated mail and news package with
  support for SMTP and POP3 inbound mail and for GROUP/ARTICLE and NEWNEWS
  passive news feeds. It has no relay capability.]

On topic note.  Your email address doesn't look like one associated with
a mail forwarding account.  Unless all your pupils intend to queue up for
one machine to compose and read their mail, you need one.

>How do I set up a gateway? (do I want to?)

If you are not prepared to run any form of Unix and you are using Win 95
or NT for the gateway, you should investigate Mercury/32 Beta from the
standard Pegasus sites.

If you are prepared to run Unix, you can run a POP3 server on it, or
use it as a smart host in conjunction with Charon or Mercury (neither of
which have dial up capabilities).

Windows 3 products like WinDis and WinSMTP may also work as local POP3
servers (WinSMTP is shareware, the others are free for this useage).

There are versions of KA9Q which will directly support Netware bindery
mode style Pegasus mail delivery and corresponding UDGs for outbound mail.
I think there are also versions which run POP3 servers.  (KA9Q is free for
educational users.)

You should also consider using an alternative ISP in order to get a UUCP
feed, as UUCP software allows automated dialup out of the box.

>Where does the modem go? (on the server?)

On my interpretation of the Demon Ts and Cs for mail forwarding, it goes
on the machine that terminates the Demon SMTP connection, which may simply
relay it to another machine at the application level.

>What is used to log onto Demon twice a day to collect/send Pmail mail?

I would suggest you appoint an email monitor, as Demon don't reccommend
automated use of their service, and SMTP (TCP in general) feeds are
messy to use in an automated dial up fashion - you tend to have to stay
online longer than necessary to ensure everything has been transferred.

>Will incoming mail be posted in users own Pmail directories?

Depends on whether you use a POP3 or a Novell style delivery mechanism.
Pegasus will transfer POP3 mail to their mailbox directory, but only
when they connect to the server.

>Do I need to use Mercury?

No, but Mercury 32 may be the best solution for Win 95 or NT and Mercury
the best solution for a simple SMTP smart host.

>Does Netware 4.11 "intranetware" help? (it has gateway software)

I think it is unlikely that this will help for email and you should discuss
its use with Demon, as I believe that it may require you to take out a
GBP 100 a month network account, but this area is a bit controversial at
the moment (I'm assuming that it can masquerade as a single address -
if multiple addresses are presented, there is no doubt that you need the
expensive account).

>Many thanks (what I want is to see a Netware server running Pmail on
>both LAN and internet!)

(In the office, we connect to a UUCP provider using Linux, gateway inbound
using Charon (we try to avoid NLMs) and gateway outward for normal traffic
from Win 3.1 and PCAnywhere/DOS (PPP dialin is under test) via Charon,
and using SMTP, with POP3 verification for '95 and NT (which have broken
Netware print support) and large mail (for which Charon is broken and
no longer supported).
-- 
David Woolley, London, England          david@djwhome.demon.co.uk
(Sending any email to this site constitutes a licence to copy it to any
company which might reasonably be assumed to have transported it or
might reasonably be assumed to service any addresses quoted in it. 15Sep1996)