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"Dutch" <not@home.com> wrote in message 
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> "LarryLook" <Larry@noemail.com> wrote in message 
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>>> Not eating meat is not synonymous with not causing harm to animals. This 
>>> is
>>> the fundamental misconception of veganism.
>>
>> 5.7 million pound of beef recalled here:
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19145012/
>
> Huh? What does recalled beef have to do with anything?

All the deaths of the cows, and the collateral deaths (associated with what 
the cows where fed) are attributable to meat eaters, no vegetarians.  There 
will always be meat recalls.  Those lives count.  If 10,000 cows are killed 
and their meat isn't used (and theres CD's too) then those deaths get 
chalked up to meat eaters, because they put forth the demand for that meat.

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>> If you add up all the collateral deaths (what are cows fed to fatten them 
>> up before slaughter?) associated with this meat the numbers of deaths are 
>> staggering.
>
> So now that you place collateral deaths on YOUR side of the argument the 
> numbers are suddenly staggering? You can't have it both ways Larry.

But cows eat so much!  Don't you know there's a pyrimid associated with the 
chain of what animal eats what.  You feed a 1000 lbs of soy to animals and 
you don't get 1000 lbs more of meat.  This pyramid is what makes there so 
many CD's associated with the feed used for cattle.

>
>> But these deaths associated with the factory farmed meat industry are 
>> virtually ignored here,
>
> No they're not. There are collateral deaths associated with all crops, 
> including animal feed.

>> while the deaths associated with my carrots are fantastically 
>> exaggerated. This is pure obfuscation!
>
> You mean the numbers are not staggering anymore?
>
>> And the newbie vegetarian comes here, who is doing a lot of good in 
>> comparison with his prior diet, and gets pounced on by this "logic" - to 
>> make him feel somehow guilty.
>
> Why would he feel guilty Larry, unless he's doing something wrong?

He's not, but you guys try to make him feel that way with your contorted 
logic.

>
>> He can't be proud of his diet since Rick and Dutch won't let him be. 
>> He's been labeled sanctimonious without ever getting to know him.  How 
>> outrageous!
>
> Sanctimony is easy to spot Larrry.

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