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"LarryLook" <Larry@noemail.com> wrote in message 
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>> "LarryLook" <Larry@noemail.com> wrote
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>>>> Our lifestyles kill animals, lots of them, meat or not. You're pushing 
>>>> a fallacy.
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> Sure, but I'd rather kill very few than many.  Especially if the few 
> aren't as valuable.

Good, but vegans don't advertise that they kill fewer animals, or less 
valuable ones.

>>> Sure, but if it where proven that on the average the person who's 30 lbs 
>>> overweight is responsible for 4 times the number of deaths of animals 
>>> (because he eats more), wouldn't it be more ethical to be of ideal body 
>>> weight?
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>> Only if you measure morality by counting dead animals. I don't.
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> How can you ignore the numbers as if they are irrelevent.  Thats 
> ridiculous. Sure the vegan may kill some by his lifestyle but if he kills 
> less...

He doesn't necessarily kill less, and his by self-righteous posing one is 
led to believe it's none at all..

>>> You seem to be saying it's impossible to live a lifestyle that involves 
>>> killing less (and is thus more ethical) or that it's not a worthy goal. 
>>> But it is a worthy goal.
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>> No, I'm saying that killing fewer animals is not directly and 
>> unconditionally dependent on not consuming "animal products". That is the 
>> vegan lie.
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> But look at all that wasted meat.  If there weren't meat eaters those cows 
> (and all the collateral deaths) wouldn't have happened.

What wasted meat?

>>> The antivegetarians here are so brainwashed that they won't admit that 
>>> wearing a fur coat made of many little animals is unethical since they 
>>> feel "the synthetic coat causes more collateral deaths."  This is really 
>>> playing with the numbers.
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>> That's a strawman Larry.
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>>> What about people who use a lot of resources to hunt animals for sport 
>>> (not food), or attend bullfights, etc.  Where is your outrage?
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>> Different topic Larry. You can raise whichever issues you feel passionate 
>> about, nobody is stopping you.
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