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Started by Ben Lovejoy
Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:00
Colour printer advice
Author: Ben Lovejoy
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:00
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My past postings to this group have been a bit one-sided, usually asking
advice rather than offering it. So why change a winning formula, is what I
say ...
The company where I work has in the past only had occasional need to print
in colour. It thus uses cheap inkjet printers which are fine for small
volume printing of documents with low print density
We now need to be able to run off larger quantities of colour slides which,
while not including more than a handful of photos, use quite a few colours
and generally have a solid coloured background.
The existing inkjets (eg. Lexmark 4799 plus Colour Jetprinter) are much,
much too slow, and I suspect the coloured backgrounds will result in them
eating cartridges for breakfast. And running off a master copy and then
using a commercial colour copy bureau costs a highly painful 95p per copy.
Anticipated future usage will be to print around 400 pages per day. A
typical day's output would be 8 copies of a 50-page document.
Now, I know you're all itching to advise me to go out and buy a colour
laserprinter, and - believe me - I'd love to. I had a loan unit for a few
days and it was *beautiful*. But it cost five grand. And having only
recently forked out four grand for a 3400c with toys, a further five grand
for a colour projector and going on for yet another three grand for a Demon
Network Dialup Account with ISDN router (which still doesn't work yet
because Demon's Corporate Services Division don't seem to know the first
thing about Macs[1]), the new equipment budget is currently in intensive
care, doctors describing its condition as "critical".
So ...
Is there a cheaper alternative to a colour laser? Or do I have to sell the
receptionist[2]?
Ben
[1] If anyone here can configure our 25-Mac network to talk to a
Demon-supplied-and-configured
Farralon Netopia router, which is plugged into the network and to the
ISDN line and responds
to pings but doesn't do anything else because Demon can't tell us how,
then please let me
know. Demon charge 500 quid for the privilege and still don't seem to
be able to tell us
when they might be able to find a Mac-literate engineer to come and do
the job.
[2] A few previous owners, but still in pretty good condition.
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Re: Colour printer advice
Author: Dave Le Good
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 00:00
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In article <B0BDAD479668155D4@lovejoy.demon.co.uk>, ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk (Ben Lovejoy) wrote: > >Anticipated future usage will be to print around 400 pages per day. A >typical day's output would be 8 copies of a 50-page document. > >Now, I know you're all itching to advise me to go out and buy a colour >laserprinter, and - believe me - I'd love to. I had a loan unit for a few >days and it was *beautiful*. But it cost five grand. And having only >recently forked out four grand for a 3400c with toys, a further five grand >for a colour projector and going on for yet another three grand for a Demon >Network Dialup Account with ISDN router (which still doesn't work yet >because Demon's Corporate Services Division don't seem to know the first >thing about Macs[1]), the new equipment budget is currently in intensive >care, doctors describing its condition as "critical". > >So ... > >Is there a cheaper alternative to a colour laser? Or do I have to sell the >receptionist[2]? (S)He may have to go :( I use an HP 870 CXI inkjet - which is sold as a professional printer. Good quality but most likely to be too slow for the above task. Dave
Re: Colour printer advice
Author: Mark Ingle
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:00
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Dave Le Good <dave@minuet.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >laserprinter, and - believe me - I'd love to. I had a loan unit for a few > >days and it was *beautiful*. But it cost five grand. The problem with some inkjet printers is that if you use them a lot, the running costs can be quite high. The Apple Color LaserWriter 12/660 now costs a reasonable 2,200 pounds + VAT plus 300 odd pounds for an extra three-year AppleCare warranty. It obviously isn't the latest in technology, but you can't really go wrong at that price. It cost about 5,000 pounds a couple of years ago. It has a couple of drawbacks, but nothing major. E-mail me if you require more details. I have had the predecessor (the 12/600PS) for a couple of years now and it is quite cheap to run and has been very reliable. And having only > >recently forked out four grand for a 3400c with toys, a further five grand > >for a colour projector and going on for yet another three grand for a Demon > >Network Dialup Account with ISDN router (which still doesn't work yet > >because Demon's Corporate Services Division don't seem to know the first > >thing about Macs[1]), the new equipment budget is currently in intensive > >care, doctors describing its condition as "critical". > > > >So ... > > > >Is there a cheaper alternative to a colour laser? Or do I have to sell the > >receptionist[2]? > > > (S)He may have to go :( I use an HP 870 CXI inkjet - which is sold as a > professional printer. Good quality but most likely to be too slow for the > above task. > > Dave
Re: Colour printer advice
Author: Ben Lovejoy
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 00:00
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mark_ingle@ifep.demon.co.uk (Mark Ingle) wrote: >The Apple Color LaserWriter 12/660 now costs a reasonable 2,200 pounds + >VAT plus 300 odd pounds for an extra three-year AppleCare warranty. It >obviously isn't the latest in technology, but you can't really go wrong >at that price. Ah, now that sounds a bit more like it. Still pricey, of course, but I'm sure we'd recoup the investment in reduced running costs within the first few months. >It has a couple of drawbacks, but nothing major. E-mail me if you >require more details. Yes please - this looks like a serious contender, so any info you can provide on your experiences of it would be most appreciated. Especially runing costs, so I can justify buying one. :-) Ben -- Ben Lovejoy | For details of special addresses Email : ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk | (autoresponder, etc), email Website: www.lovejoy.demon.co.uk/ | autoresponder@lovejoy.demon.co.uk
Re: Colour printer advice
Author: Steve Firth
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 00:00
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Ben Lovejoy <ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk> wrote: > Is there a cheaper alternative to a colour laser? Or do I have to sell the > receptionist[2]? The Tektronix phase change series of printers which use solid ink are worth a look if you are looking for cheap consumables. I can't keep up with model numbers, they were all marked 'SP' at one point, but not any more. Ink jets may not be too bad if you choose carefully and if you refill cartridges, the Epson ones are particularly good and easy to refill. See elsewhere for my recommendation on how to turn a cheap inkjet into a cheap Postscript clone... cross my palm with silver and I'll nip round and install one for you. -- Steve Firth . Good news. Ten weeks from Friday will be a dtmxx@firthcom.demon.co.uk . pretty good day. Random sigs for Internet . Config from sigFried 0.1a .
Re: Colour printer advice
Author: Ben Lovejoy
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 00:00
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mark_ingle@ifep.demon.co.uk (Mark Ingle) wrote: >The Apple Color LaserWriter 12/660 now costs a reasonable 2,200 pounds + >VAT plus 300 odd pounds for an extra three-year AppleCare warranty. It >obviously isn't the latest in technology, but you can't really go wrong >at that price. Ah, now that sounds a bit more like it. Still pricey, of course, but I'm sure we'd recoup the investment in reduced running costs within the first few months. >It has a couple of drawbacks, but nothing major. E-mail me if you >require more details. Yes please - this looks like a serious contender, so any info you can provide on your experiences of it would be most appreciated. Especially runing costs, so I can justify buying one. :-) Ben -- Ben Lovejoy | For details of special addresses Email : ben@lovejoy.demon.co.uk | (autoresponder, etc), email Website: www.lovejoy.demon.co.uk/ | autoresponder@lovejoy.demon.co.uk
Re: Colour printer advice
Author: Ben Lovejoy
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 00:00
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 00:00
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filter@firthcom.demon.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote: >Ink jets may not be too bad if you choose carefully and if you refill >cartridges I think speed is the big drawback with inkjets - we typically need to run out eight copies of a 50-page document (a pretty typical application), and our current inkjet takes forever to do a single copy. It also runs out of ink midway through every important job ... >elsewhere for my recommendation on how to turn a cheap inkjet into a >cheap Postscript clone... cross my palm with silver and I'll nip round >and install one for you. That sounds like a neat trick, though. Ben
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