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Trevor Sommers <trevor@stirrins.notdemon.co.uk> wrote:

> Occasionally a large section of the fonts on my G3 will suddenly grey out
> and become unreadable.This happens within a programme or the display fonts
> in say the apple menu. Nothing else is affected and there is no crash I
> just have to restart as i cannot read the text on the screen.
> 
> Any others had this?

Not me.  Which OS are you using?  How many founts are installed?  Do you
have ATM or any fount management stuff installed?  When was the last
time you ran Disk First Aid or similar?

Rowland.

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Trevor Sommers <trevor@stirrins.notdemon.co.uk> wrote:

> Occasionally a large section of the fonts on my G3 will suddenly grey out
> and become unreadable.This happens within a programme or the display fonts
> in say the apple menu. Nothing else is affected and there is no crash I
> just have to restart as i cannot read the text on the screen.
> 
> Any others had this?


Yes, once... I beleive its because you are running a 68k application on
OS 8.5 (check the about this computer, in the apple menu for the OS
version), which ships with the G3s.

OS8.5 stripped away a lot of the old 68k code which some applications
use, hence the drop-out.

My advice is update to PowerPC versions, and if you already have, sorry
for wasting your time!

In article <1dn33uo.c8imvy1kufuk8N@berling.demon.co.uk>,
postmaster@berling.demon.co.uk (Bizmallah) wrote:

>Subject: Re: disappearing screen fonts
>From: postmaster@berling.demon.co.uk (Bizmallah)
>Organization: Clockwork Design
>Date: Thu, 11 Feb 1999 23:14:02 +0000
>Newsgroups: demon.tech.mac
>
>Trevor Sommers <trevor@stirrins.notdemon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Occasionally a large section of the fonts on my G3 will suddenly grey out
>> and become unreadable.This happens within a programme or the display fonts
>> in say the apple menu. Nothing else is affected and there is no crash I
>> just have to restart as i cannot read the text on the screen.
>> 
>> Any others had this?
>
>
>Yes, once... I beleive its because you are running a 68k application on
>OS 8.5 (check the about this computer, in the apple menu for the OS
>version), which ships with the G3s.
>
>OS8.5 stripped away a lot of the old 68k code which some applications
>use, hence the drop-out.
>
>My advice is update to PowerPC versions, and if you already have, sorry
>for wasting your time!

This is interesting - could be. I have a lot of 68k applications on 8.5.
I suppose this would include claris emailer 2.00 and Newshopper.

Can't afford to replace them all. 

Thanks

In article <B2EB6D7196689F358@stirrins.demon.co.uk>,
trevor@stirrins.notdemon.co.uk (Trevor Sommers) wrote:

>This is interesting - could be. I have a lot of 68k applications on 8.5.
>I suppose this would include claris emailer 2.00 and Newshopper.

NewsHopper is/was a FAT binary, so has PPC code. Still running fine here
under 8.1 on a G3.

-- 
Peter

In article <B2EB7CC396683270F@cara.demon.co.uk>,
peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:

>In article <B2EB6D7196689F358@stirrins.demon.co.uk>,
>trevor@stirrins.notdemon.co.uk (Trevor Sommers) wrote:
>
>>This is interesting - could be. I have a lot of 68k applications on 8.5.
>>I suppose this would include claris emailer 2.00 and Newshopper.
>
>NewsHopper is/was a FAT binary, so has PPC code. Still running fine here
>under 8.1 on a G3.
>
Running here under 8.5.1 on a Blue & White G3

-- 
Paul K.

In article <B2ECFD049668C5D0C@0.0.0.0>,
paul@nospam.demon.co.uk (Paul Andrew King) wrote:

>Running here under 8.5.1 on a Blue & White G3

You're a lucky fellow. A friend of mine just had his desktop G3 stolen
today. It's fully insured (and backed up onto DVR which wasn't stolen) and
it's his living, so I guess he's going to be on a blue and white G3 any
day. Are they as lovely as they're supposed to be?

-- 
Peter

In article <B2ED12E9966831B40@cara.demon.co.uk>,
peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:


>
>In article <B2ECFD049668C5D0C@0.0.0.0>,
>paul@nospam.demon.co.uk (Paul Andrew King) wrote:
>
>>Running here under 8.5.1 on a Blue & White G3
>
>You're a lucky fellow.

Well, it *did* replace a Centris 610

 A friend of mine just had his desktop G3 stolen
>today. It's fully insured (and backed up onto DVR which wasn't stolen) and
>it's his living, so I guess he's going to be on a blue and white G3 any
>day. Are they as lovely as they're supposed to be?

It's a *lot* faster than the Centris, and has rather more room on the HD. 
There are a number of niggles - I didn't like the mouse, but a Logitech
wheel mouse seems to work OK (still waiting for the drivers so I can
program the buttons and use the wheel).  The keyboard is small, but
otherwise not bad.
But then I could say much the same about the Centris (such as the stupid
idea of putting the power button right where the floppy eject button would
be if there was one).  As the Centris lasted me for a good few years with
the odd expansion - and the G3 has even more potential there - I'm very
happy overall.

-- 
Paul K.

Bizmallah <postmaster@berling.demon.co.uk> wrote:

[snip]

> Yes, once... I beleive its because you are running a 68k application on
> OS 8.5 (check the about this computer, in the apple menu for the OS
> version), which ships with the G3s.
> 
> OS8.5 stripped away a lot of the old 68k code which some applications
> use, hence the drop-out.

This shouldn't matter at all - the API (application programmer
interface) hasn't changed AFAIK.  In other words, the 68k versions of
the system calls have been replaced with PPC versions.  MacOS X is a
different matter.

A better place to ask about this point would be comp.sys.mac.programmer

Rowland.

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Paul Andrew King <paul@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <B2ED12E9966831B40@cara.demon.co.uk>,
> peter@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:
> 
> 
> >
> >In article <B2ECFD049668C5D0C@0.0.0.0>,
> >paul@nospam.demon.co.uk (Paul Andrew King) wrote:
> >
> It's a *lot* faster than the Centris, and has rather more room on the HD.
> There are a number of niggles - I didn't like the mouse, but a Logitech
> wheel mouse seems to work OK (still waiting for the drivers so I can
> program the buttons and use the wheel).  The keyboard is small, but
> otherwise not bad.
> But then I could say much the same about the Centris (such as the stupid
> idea of putting the power button right where the floppy eject button would
> be if there was one).  As the Centris lasted me for a good few years with
> the odd expansion - and the G3 has even more potential there - I'm very
> happy overall.


I did overhear someone quite horrified that the CD tray is, wait for
it.. blue? opaque? no BEIGE!!!  -it lives on!

Bizmallah

In article <1dnaot0.11rmxrxzt1syaN@berling.demon.co.uk>,
postmaster@berling.demon.co.uk (Bizmallah) wrote:

>I did overhear someone quite horrified that the CD tray is, wait for
>it.. blue? opaque? no BEIGE!!!  -it lives on!

Apple use standard mechanisms - instead of expensive custom built parts for
the various drives.  That's a good move.  It would have been nice if they
could have figured out a good way of hiding it *and* giving access to the
headphone socket.  But that's another niggle.

To be honest the apearance isn't one of the major selling points to me -
but the case is good in other respects, too.

-- 
Paul K.