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Started by Nigel Barker
Sun, 21 Jan 1996 19:32
Problems with NCR810 PCI SCSI card
Author: Nigel Barker
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 19:32
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 19:32
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Having finally tracked down an NCR PCI-SCSI card (32 quid plus VAT & delivery from VIP 0161-877-3111) I've just spent the most frustrating weekend (up till 03:30 last night!) trying to get this damn card to work reliably with all my drives & all my operating systems. I've come to the comclusion that either I have a defective card or that the NCR810 is not going to work in my PC. It seems that there are several variants on this card using the same chip. It seems odd that I have seen several reports of CD-ROMs not working & Windows 95 not working whereas others report no problems. Perhaps those of us with the problems have the bad cards? Major problem number 1 is that I could not access my CD-ROM drive (Panasonic 504 SCSI-II only about 6 months old) from DOS whichever drivers DOSCAM, MINICAM,CDROM.SYS etc that I loaded. Just got a message that the drive wasn't ready while the drive light blipped on. The driver diskette that came with the board was a couple of years old & I was able to find the Web site containing the latest drivers (www.symbios.com) With the version 4 drivers I finally got to be able to do a DIR of the CD-ROM. Unfortunately if I ejected the CD-ROM & replaced it with another or even just opened the drawer & closed it again then I was again unable to access the drive until I rebooted. The second major problem for me was that in a seemingly random fashion the system would hang while booting Windows 95. If I then restarted in Safe Mode removed the SCSI controller, rebooted, got it to see the new hardware & then load the drivers there was a very good chance that it would then reboot successfully. Unfortunately it would not then restart again. In fact even when it did boot successfully after using the system for a time it would hang or I would get a blue screen saying that it was unable to write to C: I tried everything conceivable to try & fix this. My initial assumption is that as with most SCSI problems it was lack of termination somewhere but I tried all variations & it would fail with just a single internal drive. I diddled all sorts of things in the BIOS e.g. forcing it to use IRQ14. I have a Plug & Play BIOS that allows me to leave the interrupt of the PCI slot as AUTO, IRQ14, IRQ14 & IRQ15. I eventually stripped all the other cards out except the PCI graphics card to check that there wasn't a conflict of any sort. I then swapped out the PCI graphics card for an ISA one & still had the problem. I am at a loss to explain the problem (unless the card is defective) particularly as the faults seem so random in nature. The particularly annoying feature is that for a short while when it was working under Windows 95 I was able to run some Adaptec benchmark programs which demonstrated that all the disks but especially my new Seagate Hawk 1Gb disk absolutely scream along with this controller. Transfer rates for my old drives were doubled & quadrupled for the Seagate. Total bandwidth on the SCSI bus was about 3.5Mb/s hammering all drives vs. 1.2Mb/s with the ISA card. The whole system subjectively was markedly faster too. At the moment I've given up on it & have returned to using my Adaptec 1540B which while a hell of a lot slower is 100% reliable. Unless someone has some bright ideas I'm going to have to give up on this. I'm deeply reluctant to spend three times as much on an Adaptec 2940 but may be reduced to that having seen how good performance can be with a PCI SCSI controller. -- Nigel Barker nigel@openvms.demon.co.uk
Re: Problems with NCR810 PCI SCSI card
Author: Nigel Barker
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:09
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:09
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I am relieved to be able to report that I have discovered & fixed the problem that I was having. I found a setting in my Award 4.5PG BIOS - PCI Burst to Main Memory which by default is enabled. Setting this to disabled ensures that the SCSI card functions properly in DOS & Windows 95. I don't know exactly what this does as it is not documented in the otherwise excellent ASUS manual, However I assume that it is going to slow down the PCI transfers somewhat, in fact my Graphics Winmark95 is down by about 15%. As the whole machine is so much faster though I think that I can live with this. Incidentally I did try setting the motherboard clock speed to 33MHz (I am currently using a Cyrix 5x86 in 3X40MHz) but this made no difference to the problem. The BIOS setting was the answer as it is quite consistent that if re-enabled the problems recur. Thanks to everyone who emailed me with suggestions. -- Nigel Barker nigel@openvms.demon.co.uk
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