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On 2007-06-07 23:46:50 -0400, bo_dacious@mactan.org said:

> On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 00:10:47 -0400, Slim <slim@pickins.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2007-06-06 19:57:33 -0400, "ChairMan" <why4@fu.com> said:
>> 
>>> In news:44he6353f0no7rtf4kuu2dondjegfs2aka@4ax.com,
>>> Bat T Ball <ballbat@rangerscantwin.com>spewed forth:
>>>> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 10:47:40 GMT, Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 04:12:48 GMT, Bat T Ball
>>>>> <ballbat@rangerscantwin.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Don't bother with them, Slim.  As they call me and others stupid,
>>>>>> they are actually too blind to realize what's been going on.  You
>>>>>> can hit 'em in the head with a hammer and they still won't admit
>>>>>> what the government has done.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Like blow up the WTC back on 9-11-01?
>>>>> 
>>>>> You morons are hilarious!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike Smith
>>>> 
>>>> Always the ass hole.
>>> 
>>> And when you and Slim come up with ACTUAL facts with what the "gvnmt" 
>>> has done, is doing, or going to do and not just spouting rhetoric that 
>>> you hear all day in the media. Then maybe someone "might" listen to 
>>> you. Evidently some of us can still think and deduce better than you 
>>> and slim, even after being hit with a hammer.
>> 
>> 
>> FUCK YOU. DON'T PLAY COY.
>> 
>> FBI demands library records
>> Request in Connecticut, allowed by Patriot Act, is first of its kind
>> Eric Lichtblau, New York Times
>> Friday, August 26, 2005
>> (08-26) 04:00 PDT Washington -- The FBI, using its expanded authority 
>> under the anti-terrorism law known as the Patriot Act, is demanding 
>> library records from a Connecticut institution as part of an 
>> intelligence investigation, the American Civil Liberties Union said 
>> Thursday.
>> The demand is the first confirmed instance in which the FBI has used 
>> the law in this way, federal officials and the ACLU said.
> 
> 
> Yes, that was during the early phase of the FBI's investigation of the
> plot to blow up the fuel farm at JFK. Four terrorist are in jail now
> as a result of that action  Aren't you pleased with the way things are
> coming together?

The Patriot Act had nothing to do with the JFK plot.

In fact, it was a snitch who turned them in.

A snitch who was looking at hard time UNLESS he turned some "terrorists" in.

So this entire plot may have been hatched by a junkie looking to get 
off. A lowlife scumbag who entrapped innocent people to save his ass.

This was not good police or anti-terrorist work, its just the word of a 
convicted drug dealer.

Typical of the BuSHITe's to cozy up to scum.

Chalabi was the BuSHITe Poster Boy for Iraq, in spite of his 
convictions as an embezzler of millions, yet the BuSHITe's had 
pencilled him in to run Iraq for them.

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Informant's origins leaked
BY LETTA TAYLER / NY NEWSDAY

GEORGETOWN, Guyana - The whistleblower in the plot to blow up Kennedy 
Airport was a U.S. citizen of Dominican origin who traveled here in the 
guise of a merchant and unsuccessfully pressed Muslims to introduce him 
to a key al-Qaida suspect, Guyanese media reported yesterday.

Local newspapers published a photograph of the solemn, bearded man and 
said he traveled here in September under a Latino name.The informant 
said he was Muslim and used an Islamic name in Muslim circles, the 
Kaieteur News and the Guyana Chronicle reported.

Some Muslims here told Newsday they recognized the man's face and said 
he had struck a pious figure at local mosques.

The informant also posed once as a Cuban doctor and "had his way with a 
number of women," one source told Newsday. The man began coming here 
two or three years ago, the source said.

Using an Anglo name, the informant flew here May 10 with bomb plot 
suspect Russell Defreitas, a Guyanese-born Muslim and Brooklyn 
resident, on North American Airlines, sources said. They requested 
vegetarian meals, customary for many Muslims. U.S. court papers also 
say the informant and Defreitas flew here on that date.

The daughter of one bomb plot suspect on Tuesday said the informant 
also used a second Islamic name.

A spokesman for U.S. Attorney Roslynn Mauskopf declined comment on the names.

It was not clear who initially leaked the information or whether it 
would thwart continuing investigations. Guyana generally has friendly 
relations with the United States and authorities here have pledged to 
cooperate fully with U.S. investigators.

Relatives of three bomb plot suspects have angrily accused the 
informant of a set-up. Court papers say the informant is a convicted 
drug dealer who authorities paid to go undercover and that his sentence 
is pending as part of the deal.

Media here said the informant approached local Muslims as a businessman 
interested in buying products, including soap stone. The reports said 
he met Kennedy bomb plot suspect Abdul Kadir, a former lawmaker, while 
researching the possible purchase of a tropical fruit known as "fat 
pork." The fruit grows near Linden, Guyana's second-largest city, where 
Kadir is a former mayor.

Muslims "chased the man away" after he pressed them to put him in 
contact with Adnan Shukrijumah, a suspected al-Qaida operative 
interested in attacking the United States, a source said.

U.S. authorities are believed to have been concerned about Kennedy 
plotters hooking up with Shukrijumah because he is half-Guyanese, 
carries a Guyana passport and has traveled in the Caribbean in recent 
years. However, authorities also may have been trying to use the 
informant to locate Shukrijumah.

Police searched the Georgetown house where the informant allegedly 
stayed and questioned a cleaning woman there, sources said. Police also 
yesterday spent nearly five hours questioning Isha Kadir, the wife of 
suspect Kadir, who says her husband is innocent.

The questioning prompted an outcry from Isha Kadir's sons. They said 
she was lured in by police who claimed they wanted to apologize for 
having revealed they found maps of underground pipelines in Kadir's 
home. U.S. court papers allege Kadir offered his expertise as a civil 
engineer to review plans to bomb pipelines at Kennedy.

Isha Kadir told Newsday the maps were blueprints of a water project in 
Linden on which Kadir had been consulted. She said she was "outraged" 
police had mentioned them in the context of the plot.

Kadir's wife has said her husband is being framed because he has ties 
to Iran. Newsday has found no indication that Kadir's links to that 
country are illegal.

Staff writer Carol Eisenberg contributed to this story from Washington, D.C.


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England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after 
all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it 
is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a 
democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist 
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to 
the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL 
THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of 
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY 
COUNTRY."
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