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On 2007-07-01 09:12:37 -0400, Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> said:

> On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:46:27 -0400, Slim <slim@pickins.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2007-06-30 07:55:10 -0400, Mike Smith <mws@wt.net> said:
>> 
>>> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:51:58 -0400, Slim <slim@pickins.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2007-06-29 22:13:56 -0400, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> said:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:16:28 -0400, Slim <slim@pickins.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2007-06-28 03:11:57 -0400, Zeno <Zeno@home.kom> said:
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How about Bush & Co lying to the world to start a war just for profits sake?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> And what lie would that be?
>>> 
>>> {Yes, I know slim has NO CLUE what a lie is, but let's see what he
>>> "thinks" a lie is}
>>> 
>>> Post the lie, imbecile.
>> 
>> There are so many of them....
>> 
>> http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/07/22_lies.html
>> 
>> Let start with these ten...
>> 
>> Ten Appalling Lies We Were Told About Iraq
>> By Christopher Scheer, AlterNet
>> Posted on June 27, 2003, Printed on June 30, 2007
>> http://www.alternet.org/story/16274/
>> 
>> "The Iraqi dictator must not be permitted to threaten America and the 
>> world with horrible poisons and diseases and gases and atomic weapons."
>> -- George Bush, Oct. 7, 2002, in a speech in Cincinnati.
> 
> Just as I suspected, slim has absolute NO clue what a lie is...

NO WOMD found. Bush Lied.

> 
>> 
>> There is a small somber box that appears in the New York Times every 
>> day. Titled simply "Killed in Iraq," it lists the names and military 
>> affiliations of those who most recently died on tour of duty. 
>> Wednesday's edition listed just one name: Orenthial J. Smith, age 21, 
>> of Allendale, South Carolina.
>> 
>> The young, late O.J. Smith was almost certainly named after the 
>> legendary running back, Orenthal J. Simpson, before that dashing 
>> American hero was charged for a double-murder. Now his namesake has 
>> died in far-off Mesopotamia in a noble mission to, as our president put 
>> it on March 19, "disarm Iraq, to free its people and to defend the 
>> world from grave danger."
>> 
>> Today, more than three months after Bush's stirring declaration of war 
>> and nearly two months since he declared victory, no chemical, 
>> biological or nuclear weapons have been found, nor any documentation of 
>> their existence, nor any sign they were deployed in the field.
>> 
>> The mainstream press, after an astonishing two years of cowardice, is 
>> belatedly drawing attention to the unconscionable level of 
>> administrative deception. They seem surprised to find that when it 
>> comes to Iraq, the Bush administration isn't prone to the occasional 
>> lie of expediency but, in fact, almost never told the truth.
>> 
>> What follows are just the most outrageous and significant of the dozens 
>> of outright lies uttered by Bush and his top officials over the past 
>> year in what amounts to a systematic campaign to scare the bejeezus out 
>> of everybody:
> 
> Damn, that was wordy...
> 
>> 
>> LIE #1: "The evidence indicates that Iraq is reconstituting its nuclear 
>> weapons program ... Iraq has attempted to purchase high-strength 
>> aluminum tubes and other equipment needed for gas centrifuges, which 
>> are used to enrich uranium for nuclear weapons." -- President Bush, 
>> Oct. 7, 2002, in Cincinnati.
>> 
>> FACT: This story, leaked to and breathlessly reported by Judith Miller 
>> in the New York Times, has turned out to be complete baloney. 
>> Department of Energy officials, who monitor nuclear plants, say the 
>> tubes could not be used for enriching uranium. One intelligence 
>> analyst, who was part of the tubes investigation, angrily told The New 
>> Republic: "You had senior American officials like Condoleezza Rice 
>> saying the only use of this aluminum really is uranium centrifuges. She 
>> said that on television. And that's just a lie."
> 
> Where's the lie. These tubes could have been used for enriching
> uranium. Oh, I know... It's the anonymous Department of Energy
> officials...

NO WOMD found. Bush Lied.

> 
>> 
>> LIE #2: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein 
>> recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa." -- 
>> President Bush, Jan.28, 2003, in the State of the Union address.
>> 
>> FACT: This whopper was based on a document that the White House already 
>> knew to be a forgery thanks to the CIA. Sold to Italian intelligence by 
>> some hustler, the document carried the signature of an official who had 
>> been out of office for 10 years and referenced a constitution that was 
>> no longer in effect. The ex-ambassador who the CIA sent to check out 
>> the story is pissed: "They knew the Niger story was a flat-out lie," he 
>> told the New Republic, anonymously. "They [the White House] were 
>> unpersuasive about aluminum tubes and added this to make their case 
>> more strongly."
> 
> Hey, dumbass... Just where did saddam get that 500 TONS of yellow
> cake?
> Damn, dude... You are gullible...

NO WOMD found. No Yellowcake found. Bush Lied.


>> LIE #3: "We believe [Saddam] has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear 
>> weapons." -- Vice President Cheney on March 16, 2003 on "Meet the 
>> Press."
>> 
>> FACT: There was and is absolutely zero basis for this statement. CIA 
>> reports up through 2002 showed no evidence of an Iraqi nuclear weapons 
>> program.
> 
> Because we had limited CIA assets in Iraq, you fool. This info came
> from other nation's intelligence.
> You really are gullible...

NO WOMD found. Bush Lied.

> 
>> 
>> LIE #4: "[The CIA possesses] solid reporting of senior-level contacts 
>> between Iraq and al-Qaeda going back a decade." -- CIA Director George 
>> Tenet in a written statement released Oct. 7, 2002 and echoed in that 
>> evening's speech by President Bush.
>> 
>> FACT: Intelligence agencies knew of tentative contacts between Saddam 
>> and al-Qaeda in the early '90s, but found no proof of a continuing 
>> relationship. In other words, by tweaking language, Tenet and Bush spun 
>> the intelligence180 degrees to say exactly the opposite of what it 
>> suggested.
> 
> You moron. Read what you posted. Your copy&paste bullshit
> intentionally changed the parameters of what was stated.
> 
> senior-level contacts between Iraq and al-Qaeda going back a decade
> versus
> no proof of a continuing relationship.

Raygun adn Rummsey supplied "our ally" Saddam with WOMD that was used 
on the Kurds.

Raygun and Rummsey sat back and watched the slaughter without a peep.




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England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after 
all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it 
is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a 
democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist 
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to 
the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL 
THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of 
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY 
COUNTRY."
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