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Article #4752Re: Uncle Samuel into the twit list
From: Kingfish
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:58
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 17:58
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"No One" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:Eeava.1428$Ly2.191893@cletus.bright.net... | "Juan Jimenez" <b_d-5_n-o_s-p_a-m@b_d_5.com> wrote in message | news:au1va.553322$Zo.119640@sccrnsc03... | > Well, I checked with giganews and this idiot Uncle Samuel (Chrissie?) is a | > troll, most likely from under some rock in a Colorado landfill. Into the | > twit list "it" goes. | > | > | | http://groups.google.com/groups?&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&th=264d0e36d8cc97fd | A hallmark of our troller, Uncle "Psycho" Samuel <stars@bars> has been his | use of multiple posting | personalities. Who could forget the thousands of loveable and abusive | postings under the names of | "Chris", "Tony Clifton", "Patrick Fitzpatrick", "Anonymous", "Capicorn-1", | "Tranquility" and many | others, with dozens of reply addresses such as | anonymous@anonymous.anonymous, me@here.now, | my@net.not.yours, running@dog.net, and man@moon.org. | | Not to be unreasonably critical as it temporarily serves my purposes to also | post under a Nom de | Plume, our Chrissie "Uncle Samuel" has gone to great lengths to avoid Google | archive searches of his | history by constantly changing posting handles, posting services, and email | addresses, using dozens | of them. | | But where is the dividing line between a legitimate interest in privacy and | a psychotic abuse of the | internet? | | In early 2002, an individual posting under the name of "Kingfish" | <nospam@attbi.com> appeared on | the local posting scene; "Kingfish" jumped in to local discussion as a | long-time participant might, | referencing postings and threads on co.general and boulder.general that | occurred prior to his | arrival. | | "Kingfish" was mostly an agreeable chap, but for some reason, a majority of | his postings were | replies or comments in agreement with postings by Chrissie AKA "Uncle | Samuel" who in those days was | "Capicorn-1". It's interesting that the newbie "Kingfish" wasn't so green as | to eschew the use of | the anonymizing Randori.com as a posting host from the beginning to this | very day. | | Forward to the present and we note a psychotic need by our "Uncle Samuel" to | indignantly or | abusively respond to any post critical of the war or the Bush regime. | Lately, that urgent need to | defend the policies of the president and his own opinions has taken on an | almost hysterical tone. | "Uncle Samuel" appears to be losing it. | | I couldn't avoid notice that over the last week, "Kingfish" and our "Uncle | Samuel" have been | on-line, immediately downloading and replying to each 'other's ' postings, | within minutes.. Timing | is everything, we all know. | | 3-11 Kingfish @ 9:54, Uncle Samuel replies in agreement @ 10:17. | 3-11 Kingfish @ 9:42, Uncle Samuel replies at 10:17. | 3-26 Uncle Samuel @ 8:29, Kingfish adds agreement at 9:44. | 3-26 Kingfish posts @ 9:41; Uncle Samuel agrees within minutes at 9:52. | Ad nauseum. | | Not unexpectedly, "Kingfish" and "Uncle Samuel" are the only two personas | that replied to my post of | 3/26 poking fun at Uncle Sammy on b.g. | | A glance at "Kingfish's" recent postings on Google shows that 80% of a | representative sample are | replies in agreement to "Uncle Samuel" postings, or vice versa. No one | else. | Wow! The same as the "Kingfish" replies to Capicorn-1's postings at the | beginning. What an amazing | coincidence. | | It's one thing to be the perpetual anonymous troll, Chrissie, but you | slipped under pressure. You | would have to be a psycho to pay for the multiple USENET posting hosts that | you have only for the | purpose of publicly validating your own opinion. And yet you have. | | You have demonstrated that you don't have a pito, so you do it publicly on | USENET instead. | Observe the truth in the cartoon, get a life and see a shrink. | ************************************************* | in the same thread: | I've been thinking recently that it's a bot. Who would really have the | time to spend so many hours a day on USENET, and enough pent up anger to | always come off as a dog barking at the end of its chain? Plus, the | posts are incredibly predictable***. I think it's a Perl script some CU | grad student wrote for his master's paper on modern Turing machines. | | nice conspiracy theory, but not the case. I'm conservative, libertarian leaning, and on the computer all the time. Generally, Sam and I agree because we both have similar political beliefs. We have disagreed on certain issues - immigration in particular. Sam seems to lean towards isolationism while I tend to believe free and open boarders are an essential element to freedom. Also, if I cared to do so I could post from many different email addresses via Randori, but I don't. There are also many other recognizable style differences between Sam and I, but hey - if you want to believe we are one in the same, more power to you lol. I am however a long time participant of co.general and found it to be a good idea to be anonymous. Maybe I am every anonymous poster on co.general besides you. It's all a giant conspiracy, you know or Maybe I'm really the conservative side of Donald/aozotorp lol. Think what you like, but sorry: "you missed." Better luck next time. The bot theory is perhaps the most intriguing, but that would be a hell of a perl script......<G> Kingfish
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