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Re: Uncle Samuel into the twit list

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From: No One
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 19:07
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"Kingfish" <spam_trap_void@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:H4bva.2110$L6.642@news.randori.com...
>
> "No One" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:Eeava.1428$Ly2.191893@cletus.bright.net...
> | "Juan Jimenez" <b_d-5_n-o_s-p_a-m@b_d_5.com> wrote in message
> | news:au1va.553322$Zo.119640@sccrnsc03...
> | > Well, I checked with giganews and this idiot Uncle Samuel (Chrissie?)
is
> a
> | > troll, most likely from under some rock in a Colorado landfill. Into
the
> | > twit list "it" goes.
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
http://groups.google.com/groups?&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&th=264d0e36d8cc97fd
> | A hallmark of our troller, Uncle "Psycho" Samuel <stars@bars> has been
his
> | use of multiple posting
> | personalities. Who could forget the thousands of loveable and abusive
> | postings under the names of
> | "Chris", "Tony Clifton", "Patrick Fitzpatrick", "Anonymous",
"Capicorn-1",
> | "Tranquility"  and many
> | others, with dozens of reply addresses such as
> | anonymous@anonymous.anonymous, me@here.now,
> | my@net.not.yours, running@dog.net, and man@moon.org.
> |
> | Not to be unreasonably critical as it temporarily serves my purposes to
> also
> | post under a Nom de
> | Plume, our Chrissie "Uncle Samuel" has gone to great lengths to avoid
> Google
> | archive searches of his
> | history by constantly changing posting handles, posting services, and
> email
> | addresses, using dozens
> | of them.
> |
> | But where is the dividing line between a legitimate interest in privacy
> and
> | a psychotic abuse of the
> | internet?
> |
> | In early 2002, an individual posting under the name of "Kingfish"
> | <nospam@attbi.com>  appeared on
> | the local posting scene; "Kingfish" jumped in to local discussion as a
> | long-time participant might,
> | referencing postings and threads on co.general and boulder.general that
> | occurred prior to his
> | arrival.
> |
> | "Kingfish" was mostly an agreeable chap, but for some reason, a majority
> of
> | his postings were
> | replies or comments in agreement with postings by Chrissie AKA "Uncle
> | Samuel"  who in those days was
> | "Capicorn-1". It's interesting that the newbie "Kingfish" wasn't so
green
> as
> | to eschew the use of
> | the anonymizing Randori.com as a posting host from the beginning to this
> | very day.
> |
> | Forward to the present and we note a psychotic need by our "Uncle
Samuel"
> to
> | indignantly or
> | abusively respond to any post critical of the war or the Bush regime.
> | Lately, that urgent need to
> | defend the policies of the president and his own opinions has taken on
an
> | almost hysterical tone.
> | "Uncle Samuel" appears to be losing it.
> |
> | I couldn't avoid notice that over the last week, "Kingfish" and our
"Uncle
> | Samuel" have been
> | on-line, immediately downloading and replying to each 'other's '
postings,
> | within minutes.. Timing
> | is everything, we all know.
> |
> | 3-11 Kingfish @ 9:54, Uncle Samuel replies in agreement @ 10:17.
> | 3-11 Kingfish @ 9:42, Uncle Samuel replies at 10:17.
> | 3-26 Uncle Samuel @ 8:29, Kingfish adds agreement at 9:44.
> | 3-26 Kingfish posts @ 9:41; Uncle Samuel agrees within minutes at 9:52.
> | Ad nauseum.
> |
> | Not unexpectedly, "Kingfish" and "Uncle Samuel" are the only two
personas
> | that replied to my post of
> | 3/26 poking fun at Uncle Sammy on b.g.
> |
> | A glance at "Kingfish's" recent postings on Google shows that 80% of a
> | representative sample are
> | replies in agreement to "Uncle Samuel" postings, or vice versa.  No one
> | else.
> | Wow! The same as the "Kingfish" replies to Capicorn-1's postings at the
> | beginning. What an amazing
> | coincidence.
> |
> | It's one thing to be the perpetual anonymous troll, Chrissie, but you
> | slipped under pressure. You
> | would have to be a psycho to pay for the multiple USENET posting hosts
> that
> | you have only for the
> | purpose of publicly validating your own opinion. And yet you have.
> |
> | You have demonstrated that you don't have a pito, so you do it publicly
on
> | USENET instead.
> | Observe the truth in the cartoon, get a life and see a shrink.
> | *************************************************
> | in the same thread:
> | I've been thinking recently that it's a bot.  Who would really have the
> | time to spend so many hours a day on USENET, and enough pent up anger to
> | always come off as a dog barking at the end of its chain?  Plus, the
> | posts are incredibly predictable***.  I think it's a Perl script some CU
> | grad student wrote for his master's paper on modern Turing machines.
> |
> |
>
> nice conspiracy theory, but not the case.
>
> I'm conservative, libertarian leaning, and on the computer all the time.
> Generally, Sam and I agree because we both have similar political beliefs.
> We have disagreed on certain issues - immigration in particular.  Sam
seems
> to lean towards isolationism while I tend to believe free and open
boarders
> are an essential element to freedom.  Also, if I cared to do so I could
post
> from many different email addresses via Randori, but I don't.  There are
> also many other recognizable style differences between Sam and I, but
hey -
> if you want to believe we are one in the same, more power to you lol.  I
am
> however a long time participant of co.general and found it to be a good
idea
> to be anonymous.  Maybe I am every anonymous poster on co.general besides
> you.  It's all a giant conspiracy, you know or Maybe I'm really the
> conservative side of Donald/aozotorp lol.
>
> Think what you like, but sorry: "you missed."  Better luck next time.
I just repeated what others wrote which was sort of interesting.  You both
use newsgroup services outside of your ISP (Randori, Giganews) and both of
your headers have references to the ISP bright.net, specifically the server
cletus.bright.net

Despite these coincidences and the ones others wrote about I suppose it is
possible you two are seperate people though, not that it really matters
ayway.

>
> The bot theory is perhaps the most intriguing, but that would be a hell of
a
> perl script......<G>
>
> Kingfish
>
>
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