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Article #4754Re: Uncle Samuel into the twit list
From: Paul
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 19:26
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 19:26
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"No One" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:w3cva.1444$Ly2.193045@cletus.bright.net... | | "Kingfish" <spam_trap_void@yahoo.com> wrote in message | news:H4bva.2110$L6.642@news.randori.com... | > | > "No One" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message | > news:Eeava.1428$Ly2.191893@cletus.bright.net... | > | "Juan Jimenez" <b_d-5_n-o_s-p_a-m@b_d_5.com> wrote in message | > | news:au1va.553322$Zo.119640@sccrnsc03... | > | > Well, I checked with giganews and this idiot Uncle Samuel (Chrissie?) | is | > a | > | > troll, most likely from under some rock in a Colorado landfill. Into | the | > | > twit list "it" goes. | > | > | > | > | > | | > | | http://groups.google.com/groups?&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&th=264d0e36d8cc97fd | > | A hallmark of our troller, Uncle "Psycho" Samuel <stars@bars> has been | his | > | use of multiple posting | > | personalities. Who could forget the thousands of loveable and abusive | > | postings under the names of | > | "Chris", "Tony Clifton", "Patrick Fitzpatrick", "Anonymous", | "Capicorn-1", | > | "Tranquility" and many | > | others, with dozens of reply addresses such as | > | anonymous@anonymous.anonymous, me@here.now, | > | my@net.not.yours, running@dog.net, and man@moon.org. | > | | > | Not to be unreasonably critical as it temporarily serves my purposes to | > also | > | post under a Nom de | > | Plume, our Chrissie "Uncle Samuel" has gone to great lengths to avoid | > Google | > | archive searches of his | > | history by constantly changing posting handles, posting services, and | > email | > | addresses, using dozens | > | of them. | > | | > | But where is the dividing line between a legitimate interest in privacy | > and | > | a psychotic abuse of the | > | internet? | > | | > | In early 2002, an individual posting under the name of "Kingfish" | > | <nospam@attbi.com> appeared on | > | the local posting scene; "Kingfish" jumped in to local discussion as a | > | long-time participant might, | > | referencing postings and threads on co.general and boulder.general that | > | occurred prior to his | > | arrival. | > | | > | "Kingfish" was mostly an agreeable chap, but for some reason, a majority | > of | > | his postings were | > | replies or comments in agreement with postings by Chrissie AKA "Uncle | > | Samuel" who in those days was | > | "Capicorn-1". It's interesting that the newbie "Kingfish" wasn't so | green | > as | > | to eschew the use of | > | the anonymizing Randori.com as a posting host from the beginning to this | > | very day. | > | | > | Forward to the present and we note a psychotic need by our "Uncle | Samuel" | > to | > | indignantly or | > | abusively respond to any post critical of the war or the Bush regime. | > | Lately, that urgent need to | > | defend the policies of the president and his own opinions has taken on | an | > | almost hysterical tone. | > | "Uncle Samuel" appears to be losing it. | > | | > | I couldn't avoid notice that over the last week, "Kingfish" and our | "Uncle | > | Samuel" have been | > | on-line, immediately downloading and replying to each 'other's ' | postings, | > | within minutes.. Timing | > | is everything, we all know. | > | | > | 3-11 Kingfish @ 9:54, Uncle Samuel replies in agreement @ 10:17. | > | 3-11 Kingfish @ 9:42, Uncle Samuel replies at 10:17. | > | 3-26 Uncle Samuel @ 8:29, Kingfish adds agreement at 9:44. | > | 3-26 Kingfish posts @ 9:41; Uncle Samuel agrees within minutes at 9:52. | > | Ad nauseum. | > | | > | Not unexpectedly, "Kingfish" and "Uncle Samuel" are the only two | personas | > | that replied to my post of | > | 3/26 poking fun at Uncle Sammy on b.g. | > | | > | A glance at "Kingfish's" recent postings on Google shows that 80% of a | > | representative sample are | > | replies in agreement to "Uncle Samuel" postings, or vice versa. No one | > | else. | > | Wow! The same as the "Kingfish" replies to Capicorn-1's postings at the | > | beginning. What an amazing | > | coincidence. | > | | > | It's one thing to be the perpetual anonymous troll, Chrissie, but you | > | slipped under pressure. You | > | would have to be a psycho to pay for the multiple USENET posting hosts | > that | > | you have only for the | > | purpose of publicly validating your own opinion. And yet you have. | > | | > | You have demonstrated that you don't have a pito, so you do it publicly | on | > | USENET instead. | > | Observe the truth in the cartoon, get a life and see a shrink. | > | ************************************************* | > | in the same thread: | > | I've been thinking recently that it's a bot. Who would really have the | > | time to spend so many hours a day on USENET, and enough pent up anger to | > | always come off as a dog barking at the end of its chain? Plus, the | > | posts are incredibly predictable***. I think it's a Perl script some CU | > | grad student wrote for his master's paper on modern Turing machines. | > | | > | | > | > nice conspiracy theory, but not the case. | > | > I'm conservative, libertarian leaning, and on the computer all the time. | > Generally, Sam and I agree because we both have similar political beliefs. | > We have disagreed on certain issues - immigration in particular. Sam | seems | > to lean towards isolationism while I tend to believe free and open | boarders | > are an essential element to freedom. Also, if I cared to do so I could | post | > from many different email addresses via Randori, but I don't. There are | > also many other recognizable style differences between Sam and I, but | hey - | > if you want to believe we are one in the same, more power to you lol. I | am | > however a long time participant of co.general and found it to be a good | idea | > to be anonymous. Maybe I am every anonymous poster on co.general besides | > you. It's all a giant conspiracy, you know or Maybe I'm really the | > conservative side of Donald/aozotorp lol. | > | > Think what you like, but sorry: "you missed." Better luck next time. | I just repeated what others wrote which was sort of interesting. You both | use newsgroup services outside of your ISP (Randori, Giganews) and both of | your headers have references to the ISP bright.net, specifically the server | cletus.bright.net Not when I look at the headers. This is likely the path of *your* newsfeed. Check your own posts, or anyone elses and I would bet those references are there as well... | Despite these coincidences and the ones others wrote about I suppose it is | possible you two are seperate people though, not that it really matters | ayway. Interesting theory, and if I were on the outside looking in it would be a curiosity but from where I sit I get to be sure about who I am <G> As for time of posting, you would be able to find a close to and from with others in the past like Melissa, Maraya, the azotorp/donald fertt character nd many others back and forth minutes apart. The thing is many folks as a matter of occupation are forced to be on the box 16 hours a day and Usenet is a nice diversion. my sock puppet theory of the year is azotorp and Donald Ferrt, look into that for a fun waste of time. I guess that would be much less interesting though as neither of "them" is anywhere near as interesting as Sam or myself <VBG> now this post is coming just minutes after your post..... maybe we are the same person ; ) Nice day in MN? | | > | > The bot theory is perhaps the most intriguing, but that would be a hell of | a | > perl script......<G> | > | > Kingfish | > | > | |
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