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Re: Uncle Samuel into the twit list

#4754
From: Paul
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 19:26
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"No One" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:w3cva.1444$Ly2.193045@cletus.bright.net...
|
| "Kingfish" <spam_trap_void@yahoo.com> wrote in message
| news:H4bva.2110$L6.642@news.randori.com...
| >
| > "No One" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
| > news:Eeava.1428$Ly2.191893@cletus.bright.net...
| > | "Juan Jimenez" <b_d-5_n-o_s-p_a-m@b_d_5.com> wrote in message
| > | news:au1va.553322$Zo.119640@sccrnsc03...
| > | > Well, I checked with giganews and this idiot Uncle Samuel
(Chrissie?)
| is
| > a
| > | > troll, most likely from under some rock in a Colorado landfill. Into
| the
| > | > twit list "it" goes.
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| http://groups.google.com/groups?&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&th=264d0e36d8cc97fd
| > | A hallmark of our troller, Uncle "Psycho" Samuel <stars@bars> has been
| his
| > | use of multiple posting
| > | personalities. Who could forget the thousands of loveable and abusive
| > | postings under the names of
| > | "Chris", "Tony Clifton", "Patrick Fitzpatrick", "Anonymous",
| "Capicorn-1",
| > | "Tranquility"  and many
| > | others, with dozens of reply addresses such as
| > | anonymous@anonymous.anonymous, me@here.now,
| > | my@net.not.yours, running@dog.net, and man@moon.org.
| > |
| > | Not to be unreasonably critical as it temporarily serves my purposes
to
| > also
| > | post under a Nom de
| > | Plume, our Chrissie "Uncle Samuel" has gone to great lengths to avoid
| > Google
| > | archive searches of his
| > | history by constantly changing posting handles, posting services, and
| > email
| > | addresses, using dozens
| > | of them.
| > |
| > | But where is the dividing line between a legitimate interest in
privacy
| > and
| > | a psychotic abuse of the
| > | internet?
| > |
| > | In early 2002, an individual posting under the name of "Kingfish"
| > | <nospam@attbi.com>  appeared on
| > | the local posting scene; "Kingfish" jumped in to local discussion as a
| > | long-time participant might,
| > | referencing postings and threads on co.general and boulder.general
that
| > | occurred prior to his
| > | arrival.
| > |
| > | "Kingfish" was mostly an agreeable chap, but for some reason, a
majority
| > of
| > | his postings were
| > | replies or comments in agreement with postings by Chrissie AKA "Uncle
| > | Samuel"  who in those days was
| > | "Capicorn-1". It's interesting that the newbie "Kingfish" wasn't so
| green
| > as
| > | to eschew the use of
| > | the anonymizing Randori.com as a posting host from the beginning to
this
| > | very day.
| > |
| > | Forward to the present and we note a psychotic need by our "Uncle
| Samuel"
| > to
| > | indignantly or
| > | abusively respond to any post critical of the war or the Bush regime.
| > | Lately, that urgent need to
| > | defend the policies of the president and his own opinions has taken on
| an
| > | almost hysterical tone.
| > | "Uncle Samuel" appears to be losing it.
| > |
| > | I couldn't avoid notice that over the last week, "Kingfish" and our
| "Uncle
| > | Samuel" have been
| > | on-line, immediately downloading and replying to each 'other's '
| postings,
| > | within minutes.. Timing
| > | is everything, we all know.
| > |
| > | 3-11 Kingfish @ 9:54, Uncle Samuel replies in agreement @ 10:17.
| > | 3-11 Kingfish @ 9:42, Uncle Samuel replies at 10:17.
| > | 3-26 Uncle Samuel @ 8:29, Kingfish adds agreement at 9:44.
| > | 3-26 Kingfish posts @ 9:41; Uncle Samuel agrees within minutes at
9:52.
| > | Ad nauseum.
| > |
| > | Not unexpectedly, "Kingfish" and "Uncle Samuel" are the only two
| personas
| > | that replied to my post of
| > | 3/26 poking fun at Uncle Sammy on b.g.
| > |
| > | A glance at "Kingfish's" recent postings on Google shows that 80% of a
| > | representative sample are
| > | replies in agreement to "Uncle Samuel" postings, or vice versa.  No
one
| > | else.
| > | Wow! The same as the "Kingfish" replies to Capicorn-1's postings at
the
| > | beginning. What an amazing
| > | coincidence.
| > |
| > | It's one thing to be the perpetual anonymous troll, Chrissie, but you
| > | slipped under pressure. You
| > | would have to be a psycho to pay for the multiple USENET posting hosts
| > that
| > | you have only for the
| > | purpose of publicly validating your own opinion. And yet you have.
| > |
| > | You have demonstrated that you don't have a pito, so you do it
publicly
| on
| > | USENET instead.
| > | Observe the truth in the cartoon, get a life and see a shrink.
| > | *************************************************
| > | in the same thread:
| > | I've been thinking recently that it's a bot.  Who would really have
the
| > | time to spend so many hours a day on USENET, and enough pent up anger
to
| > | always come off as a dog barking at the end of its chain?  Plus, the
| > | posts are incredibly predictable***.  I think it's a Perl script some
CU
| > | grad student wrote for his master's paper on modern Turing machines.
| > |
| > |
| >
| > nice conspiracy theory, but not the case.
| >
| > I'm conservative, libertarian leaning, and on the computer all the time.
| > Generally, Sam and I agree because we both have similar political
beliefs.
| > We have disagreed on certain issues - immigration in particular.  Sam
| seems
| > to lean towards isolationism while I tend to believe free and open
| boarders
| > are an essential element to freedom.  Also, if I cared to do so I could
| post
| > from many different email addresses via Randori, but I don't.  There are
| > also many other recognizable style differences between Sam and I, but
| hey -
| > if you want to believe we are one in the same, more power to you lol.  I
| am
| > however a long time participant of co.general and found it to be a good
| idea
| > to be anonymous.  Maybe I am every anonymous poster on co.general
besides
| > you.  It's all a giant conspiracy, you know or Maybe I'm really the
| > conservative side of Donald/aozotorp lol.
| >
| > Think what you like, but sorry: "you missed."  Better luck next time.
| I just repeated what others wrote which was sort of interesting.  You both
| use newsgroup services outside of your ISP (Randori, Giganews) and both of
| your headers have references to the ISP bright.net, specifically the
server
| cletus.bright.net

Not when I look at the headers.  This is likely the path of *your* newsfeed.
Check your own posts, or anyone elses and I would bet those references are
there as well...

| Despite these coincidences and the ones others wrote about I suppose it is
| possible you two are seperate people though, not that it really matters
| ayway.

Interesting theory, and if I were on the outside looking in it would be a
curiosity but from where I sit I get to be sure about who I am <G>

As for time of posting, you would be able to find a close to and from with
others in the past like Melissa, Maraya, the azotorp/donald fertt character
nd many others back and forth minutes apart.  The thing is many folks as a
matter of occupation are forced to be on the box 16 hours a day and Usenet
is a nice diversion.

my sock puppet theory of the year is azotorp and Donald Ferrt, look into
that for a fun waste of time.  I guess that would be much less interesting
though as neither of "them" is anywhere near as interesting as Sam or myself
<VBG>

now this post is coming just minutes after your post..... maybe we are the
same person ; )  Nice day in MN?

|
| >
| > The bot theory is perhaps the most intriguing, but that would be a hell
of
| a
| > perl script......<G>
| >
| > Kingfish
| >
| >
|
|
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From: "Paul" <paulthepainter@taperfriendly.com>
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