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Article #8178Re: Freedom is Fragile (It erodes quickly)
From: vonroach
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:46
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2003 15:46
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On 24 Dec 2003 12:08:05 -0800, usenet@jeffsalzberg.com (Jeff Salzberg) wrote: >vonroach <hadrainc@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<v6djuvga4kt0kcgic1g3r7mc4glfdrob1o@4ax.com>... > >> >The lobbing for "progressive legislation" is .....what? >> >Or building a community of "activists" is something out of Alinsky's >> >book of...what? You tell me. Marcuse's rules? >> >Choamsky's notion of "liberty"? >> >> This goes a tad beyond `free speech'. Sounds like the free speech of >> Marxist activists to me. > >So you're saying that speech should be free unless you disagree with it? Is that what I said Jeffy? Where? Perhaps you not only want free speech but the right to say what others say? What I said was that the message sounds like the speech of Marxist activists. I meant exactly what _I_ said. On the subject of `free speech', the Constitution said only that Congress should make no law interfering with freedom of speech - but Congress did make such a law, calling it campaign finance reform, and the Supreme Court ignored the Constitution and opined that it was just fine. That sounds like the opinion of a Marxist activist Court to me. So please don't get so free with _my speech_ in the future since I doubt that we agree on anything.
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