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On Wed, 05 Sep 2007 23:06:19 -0000, Kamakazee <mscottster@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Sep 5, 1:23�am, Jer <gd...@airmail.ten> wrote:
>> Al wrote:
>> > In article <fesrd3dp1ubg4d042kgu01i2c7riec8...@4ax.com>,
>> > �Ron Johnson <bug...@KILLSPAMMERSairmail.net> wrote:
>>
>> >> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:19:14 -0500, Suburbanaristic
>> >> <Mussel...@wohoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >>> I've often wondered this myself...
>>
>> >>> **I've never been to Africa but I know that it's a more culturally and
>> >>> politically diverse place than we in the West often give it credit for.
>> >>> We say "African" as if it accurately, or at least adequately, captures
>> >>> everything about that vast continent. I understand the complaint.
>> >>> Liberals and conservative alike do it. We can talk about it at length if
>> >>> you like. But...
>>
>> >>> Why on Earth do Hillary Clinton et al. think that Africa � never mind
>> >>> African "tribes" � are a compelling philosophical and political role
>> >>> model for the United States of America? Africa? Africa? At least when
>> >>> they invoke Europe as a public policy North Star they have in mind a
>> >>> first world economy and government. But Africa?
>>
>> >>> On what conceivable grounds is it warranted to say, "What would the
>> >>> Africans do?" Even on the wishy-washy proverbial terrain Clinton is
>> >>> usually dealing with � "children," "villages," etc � is there any
>> >>> empirical basis for arguing that the African Way is superior to our own?
>> >>> Maybe there are studies that show "Africans" are happier than Americans
>> >>> � when the former aren't dying of malnutrition or medieval health care,
>> >>> or desperately trying to emigrate to the West, no doubt. But even if
>> >>> such studies exist, I doubt that any of the Africaphiles have that sort
>> >>> of thing in mind when they talk about the ancient Wisdom we should
>> >>> borrow from over there.
>>
>> >>> Even more fascinating: why do so many people uncritically accept these
>> >>> appeals to African wisdom?
>>
>> >>>http://tinyurl.com/27vnlq
>> >> If you got out more, and learned some things about Africa, (More than
>> >> you learned from watching, "Tarzan", you might understand. � I have
>> >> friends from a number of African Countries, Nigerians, Sudanese,
>> >> Kenyans, South Africans, and more.
>>
>> > Well, good for you, but actually we do know quite a bit about Africa in
>> > the context that the writer is referencing, if we were to "get out
>> > more", we perhaps may find that, indeed, we should be more like Africa,
>> > but I kinda think that's not too likely.
>>
>> > After all, we are continually told that Africa "must be saved", but that
>> > the rich history of Africa is a model somehow through their quaint
>> > ancient customs.
>>
>> > It would make better sense for a presidential candidate to quote the
>> > proverbs of the founders of this country rather than patronizing
>> > specific identity groups with such pander.
>>
>> >> I realize that I have a head start on you, having trained people from
>> >> some of those countries to be truck drivers, but others I know outside
>> >> of being a trainer.
>>
>> > I am of of course at at acknowledged intellectual disadvantage in the
>> > realm of cred when discussing geopoloitics, after all you are a truck
>> > driver.
>>
>> Here's Rudd, proving he's the pompous slut I've always know him to be.
>> Again.
>>
>>
>>
>> >> If we only associate ourselves with white rednecks, we are not likely
>> >> to know much about the real world, or even our own country.
>>
>> > Then again, you grew up in Texas, right? I grew up in Puerto Rico,
>> > Florida, California, London, NYC, and other places I forget, where it
>> > was damn difficult to find this "white redneck" you speak of.
>>
>> We don't care where you were raised, all we want to know is why did the
>> best part of you dribble down your mother's leg?
>>
>>
>>
>> > Given that, what is this "we" stuff?
>>
>> --
>> jer
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>Jer,
>
>Cool, I'm not a ten either, more like a 3.5 (on a good day), but I'm
>assuming your female?

That's it Jer, out of the closet time.  But I must admit, having known
you in person, (not Biblically), you sure had me fooled.