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Re: Why, indeed.

#3330
From: Jer
Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:24
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Kamakazee wrote:
> On Sep 5, 1:23 am, Jer <gd...@airmail.ten> wrote:
>> Al wrote:
>>> In article <fesrd3dp1ubg4d042kgu01i2c7riec8...@4ax.com>,
>>>  Ron Johnson <bug...@KILLSPAMMERSairmail.net> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:19:14 -0500, Suburbanaristic
>>>> <Mussel...@wohoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> I've often wondered this myself...
>>>>> **I've never been to Africa but I know that it's a more culturally and
>>>>> politically diverse place than we in the West often give it credit for.
>>>>> We say "African" as if it accurately, or at least adequately, captures
>>>>> everything about that vast continent. I understand the complaint.
>>>>> Liberals and conservative alike do it. We can talk about it at length if
>>>>> you like. But...
>>>>> Why on Earth do Hillary Clinton et al. think that Africa ‹ never mind
>>>>> African "tribes" ‹ are a compelling philosophical and political role
>>>>> model for the United States of America? Africa? Africa? At least when
>>>>> they invoke Europe as a public policy North Star they have in mind a
>>>>> first world economy and government. But Africa?
>>>>> On what conceivable grounds is it warranted to say, "What would the
>>>>> Africans do?" Even on the wishy-washy proverbial terrain Clinton is
>>>>> usually dealing with ‹ "children," "villages," etc ‹ is there any
>>>>> empirical basis for arguing that the African Way is superior to our own?
>>>>> Maybe there are studies that show "Africans" are happier than Americans
>>>>> ‹ when the former aren't dying of malnutrition or medieval health care,
>>>>> or desperately trying to emigrate to the West, no doubt. But even if
>>>>> such studies exist, I doubt that any of the Africaphiles have that sort
>>>>> of thing in mind when they talk about the ancient Wisdom we should
>>>>> borrow from over there.
>>>>> Even more fascinating: why do so many people uncritically accept these
>>>>> appeals to African wisdom?
>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/27vnlq
>>>> If you got out more, and learned some things about Africa, (More than
>>>> you learned from watching, "Tarzan", you might understand.   I have
>>>> friends from a number of African Countries, Nigerians, Sudanese,
>>>> Kenyans, South Africans, and more.
>>> Well, good for you, but actually we do know quite a bit about Africa in
>>> the context that the writer is referencing, if we were to "get out
>>> more", we perhaps may find that, indeed, we should be more like Africa,
>>> but I kinda think that's not too likely.
>>> After all, we are continually told that Africa "must be saved", but that
>>> the rich history of Africa is a model somehow through their quaint
>>> ancient customs.
>>> It would make better sense for a presidential candidate to quote the
>>> proverbs of the founders of this country rather than patronizing
>>> specific identity groups with such pander.
>>>> I realize that I have a head start on you, having trained people from
>>>> some of those countries to be truck drivers, but others I know outside
>>>> of being a trainer.
>>> I am of of course at at acknowledged intellectual disadvantage in the
>>> realm of cred when discussing geopoloitics, after all you are a truck
>>> driver.
>> Here's Rudd, proving he's the pompous slut I've always know him to be.
>> Again.
>>
>>
>>
>>>> If we only associate ourselves with white rednecks, we are not likely
>>>> to know much about the real world, or even our own country.
>>> Then again, you grew up in Texas, right? I grew up in Puerto Rico,
>>> Florida, California, London, NYC, and other places I forget, where it
>>> was damn difficult to find this "white redneck" you speak of.
>> We don't care where you were raised, all we want to know is why did the
>> best part of you dribble down your mother's leg?
>>
>>
>>
>>> Given that, what is this "we" stuff?
>> --
>> jer
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> 
> Jer,
> 
> Cool, I'm not a ten either, more like a 3.5 (on a good day), but I'm
> assuming your female?
> 


Wow, it's been a while since I was mistook for a member of the opposing 
team.  Although I have the hair that has on rare occasions contributed 
to issues such as this, I certainly don't have the figure for it.  I 
just keep the lights on just enough to avoid any confusion.  :)



-- 
jer
email reply - I am not a 'ten'
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From: Jer <gdunn@airmail.ten>
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Subject: Re: Why, indeed.
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 20:24:22 -0500
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