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Re: Fascist Bush US imprisons more than Russia or China - 1 in 100 in prison

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From: Karl-Henry Martinsson
Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:06
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"Al" <albert.finney000@geemail.coom> wrote in message 
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> In article <TyUyj.19148$J41.12883@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net>,
> "Karl-Henry Martinsson" <txkhm@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> "Al" <albert.finney000@geemail.coom> wrote in message
>> news:albert.finney000-0B5F04.13574201032008@news-server.tx.rr.com...
>> >> >
>> >> >> Now, see if you can be equally cute pondering why the US
>> >> >> imprisons more people on a percentage basis than any other "free" 
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> communist country on earth.  Use extra cuteness.
>> >> >
>> >> >My guess is that law enforcement is becoming more efficient through
>> >> >technology, combined with the influx of people and the disaster of 
>> >> >LBJ's
>> >> >Great Society.
>> >>
>> >> And you be ........... totally wrong. The crime rate is not up much.
>> >> What has happened is a combo of longer sentences with no parole, 3
>> >> strikes laws, and the idiocy of imprisoning minor drug offenders. Why
>> >> don't you read the article before adding your inane comments? Or can't
>> >> you read?
>> >
>> > I cannot read, sorry, but actually the crime rate has been declining 
>> > for
>> > years, decades.
>> >
>> > I wonder if there's any correlation, or as the NYT wonders at least 
>> > once
>> > a year "if crime is down, why are we building more prisons?"
>>
>> Crime, especially violent crimes, started declining about 16-18 years 
>> after
>> abortions were made legal (Roe vs. Wade). Coincidence? Or poor single
>> mothers being able to avoid having a child born into poverty (and later
>> crime, since there is a correlation between poverty and crime)[1].
>
> Correct.
>
> Margaret Sanger, an early advocate of birth control, was quite clear
> about the aims - to slow the proliferation of Negroes. Abortion is just
> an extension of that mindset. And quite successful, as Abortion has
> killed more blacks than war, disease and accidental death combined.

But it has (possibly) killed more whites and hispanics as well. Correct? 
Abortion and birth control is not used to "kill", but to prevent birth.
From my (very unscientific) observation, it seems like black girls in poor 
areas (as well as "white trash" girls) have a much higher pregnancy rate 
than say a college educated girl. The rate of early pregnancy/child births 
seems to be related to the poverty level of the girl. What the reason is, I 
can only speculate in, but some possible reasons that comes to mind are:
* Low education, not understanding the risk of pregnancy. "You can't get 
pregnant the first time you have sex"
* Using pregnancy to catch a guy or get money. "If I get pregnant, he will 
have to marry me and/or pay for the child."
* Simply stupidity. I am not saying everyone that is poor is stupid, but 
there seems to be a correlation. Intelligent people usually get jobs, since 
they usually studied and got a degree.

Just for fun, go to any online dating website and look around a little. Set 
your search criteria to women age 18-22, and see how many white girls that 
list that they have kids in their profile, vs. the number of black girls 
that say they have kids. You may also do a similar comparison and look at 
the reported income level the girls list compared to if they have kids or 
not. I bet that you will find more kids in the 25K income level than in the 
65K level...

I get the impression that you are against abortion/birth control. Do you 
think it is better that young girls have kids they don't want, without being 
married or having a positive father figure around? The local drug-dealing 
gang-banger or trailer-living unemployed semi-alcoholic (or whoever the 
father is) is probably not the best role model for a child, don't you agree?

So if "Abortion has killed more blacks than war, disease and accidental 
death combined", as you say, does that mean that black girls can't keep 
their legs together, while white and hispanic girls can? Or are you saying 
that black girls have more unprotected sex?

/Karl 
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