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In article <4b3di9$23a@skipper.netrail.net>,
Mark Casey <mcasey@netrail.net> wrote:
>In article <4apsfr$rr8@news4.digex.net>, joe@access4.digex.net says...
>>
>>Your example is bogus.
>>
>>Lets say you have a moving company and you can move stuff in one day
>>from point A to point B.  However, there exists no road from point A
>>to point B where your truck will fit.  Additionally, only one company
>>builds the roads.  Is it wrong to say you can move a house in a day (I
>>mean, you have the means necessary), but the limits of the road system
>>may dictate otherwise?
>>
>Yes Joe, it is wrong to say that.
>
>Doesn't the company that builds theroads between Greenbelt and Baltimore offer 
>quite a few alternative routes (Leased Lines, Frame-Relay, SMDS) capable of 
>carrying some pretty *BIG* trucks (T1, T3). I guess those bigger roads have 
>higher tolls but wouldn't you expect that it costs more to build abigger road? 

What you seem to be missing here is that BA is using the SLC-96's to deliver
dial-up telephone lines to Digex's modem bank.  You can't connect Leased
services, Frame Relay, SMDS to a dial-up modem, and a SLIP/PPP user can't
dial in to Leased/SMDA/FR services from his home/work telephone line.

** A dial-up circuit with GUARENTEED bandwidth to support 28.8 DOES NOT EXIST
   in BA's tarriffs.  **

Digex will be happy to sell you service via Frame Relay/Leased lines (not
sure about SMDS), and BA will deliver the line with the appropriate bandwidth
to support the service.  But for POTS (Plain old telephone service), you are
pretty much stuck with whatever BA gives you....

(There are alternative ways to get dialtone delivered from BA, such as on T-1,
but for 24 lines on a T-1 you typically pay for 24 lines + mileage on the
T-1 + your own equipment to terminate the T-1, and even this will not guarantee
28.8 connections, because in a lot of cases the T-1 terminates in a Channel
Bank at BA's CO, and once again you are going through an Analog conversion
over which you have no control....   I understand Digex is looking at 
alternative access methods, but I imagine that they are probably a LOT more
expensive than their current system.)

>
>So what you're really saying is that Digex is trying to fit thier BIG trucks 
>down one of BAs little roads designed for smaller trucks becausesome obsolete 
>tariff says they can. And now they are complaining about the road builder 
>because the tires of their trucks keep falling off the edge of the road 
>resulting in alot of flat tires, ultimately limiting their ability to deliver 
>the furniture in a single day. 

No, this is not at all accurate.  The only way to provide Dial-up service is
on Dial-up phone lines.  If you want guaranteed bandwidth, then you need to
but a Leased or Frame Relay service.  The comparison is just not valid, because
those other "Roads" are not accessable to a dial-up user.

>
>Go figure...??

Figured it out yet...?

>
>Mark
>

(Flame Off....)

Fred Bauer
fbauer@access.digex.net