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In article <4b4rk6$i7v@ss2.digex.net>, doug@ss2.digex.net (Doug Humphrey) wrote:

> In article <4aq3m1$9jb@shado.jaguNET.com>,
> Jim Jagielski <jim@jaguNET.com> wrote:
> >This is all my opinion... take it or leave it.
> >
> >I think it's unfair to blame Digex for the fact that the SLCs can't carry
> >the full bandwidth of a 28.8k modem. The specifications and particulars
> >of those circuits are beyond Digex's control and instead fall into the grand
> >monopoly of Bell Atlantic.
> 
> Thanks ;-)
> 
> >However, you could blame Digex for using this technique to handle remote
> >calling areas.
> 
> Your understanding of our situation is not clear - we are not using 
> this to avoid putting in POPs - we are being FORCED to use this as the
> way that BA gets 2000 dialtones into the building that we are in.  Other
> dialup providers will hit this wall if they grow to the point where they
> need to have that many lines in a single place, and there is not enough
> copper to handle it, and they are using POTS (plain old telephone service)
> lines.  Every single phone line into our facility here uses this technology
> from BA, even the voice lines and dialups that are served out of the Central
> Office about 500 yards away.
> 
> >So the limitations of the SLCs are beyond Digex's control, and you can't
> >blame them for that. You can, if you like, blame them for using a method
> >that makes the limitations of the SLCs _their_ limitation as well. You
> >could also reasonable blame them for not investigating different options
> >as well.
> 
> Like I said, this is something that effects every line - not an 
> artifact of us trying to not have pops.
> 
> Doug

What is the determining factor as to whether or not incoming lines are
analog or multiplexed and require a SLC96?

If I order one phone line, I'm going to get analog from BA. If I order
two, I'm also going to get analog. There's a point I presume where it
becomes cheaper to get a SLC. Is it required to get a SLC, or is it an
option offered by BA which includes a reduced price for the incoming
lines. In other words, couldn't Digex get say 2000 incoming analog lines
if it paid the "normal" rate for them, rather than the "bulk" price. I
would find it very surprising that BA wouldn't offer the more expensive
service, I've never known a phone company to not want to take your money.

One of your previous messages does leave me very concerned. You mentioned
that Digex no longer advertises it's Dialup Service, because of the
problems involved, but does advertise the "premium" leased line, Frame
Relay, etc services. Can we infer from this that Digex does not consider
dialup to be an important market?

Chris

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