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Article #186Re: new powers for employers to read employees' email
From: seajays
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:30
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 14:30
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In article <fbVJ5.7034$MK5.686900@news1.cableinet.net>, "Mike Read" <mread@cableinet.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > I read about half of it, and scanned the rest as it became clear > > that > > > > the arguments being put forward were weak. > > > > > > If you believe they are weak, can you explain why? My guess is that > > > you haven't understood them properly, because on my reading they > > > (at the very least) need a rebuttal, and you haven't offered one. > > Saying > > > they are weak doesn't make them so - you need to provide some sort > > > of argument. > > > > > > > Sorry to disappoint you Mike, but I just can't summon the energy - I > > just didn't find it made any points interesting enough to take the > > trouble to point out the flaws. > > Then you lose. > > ;-P > Perhaps I should try to be a little more succinct and pull together my thoughts on why there is no need to address the article. What the article tries to do is avoid the issue of human rights(*), while at the same time trying to subvert them. The author knows a head-on attack of human rights would not succeed, therefore a different tack is tried. This tack is to obfuscate the issue by bringing up so called 'arguments', saying just how 'difficult' it is, and 'oh the poor old courts will be so confused', etc., etc. It goes on in great detail about the complexities of the situation, lulling the reader into a similar, 'Gosh, the whole thing's a terrible mess', type of attitude. It therefore concludes that the only option is to drop the subject and not bother protecting people's work because of all the 'difficulties'. The reader, having gone through all the rubbish being spouted is compelled to agree. Now what the article has done is, very cleverly, got the reader to unwittingly agree to suspend some of their Universal Human rights - without ever having actually mentioned them. It is this insidious aspect of the article, that is so dangerous. You don't need to argue the article point by point, because the basic principles at stake override the need to go into minutiae. (*) - http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html Article 17. (1) Everyone has the right to own property alone as well as in association with others. (2) No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property. Article 23. (3) Everyone who works has the right to just and favourable remuneration... Article 27. (2) Everyone has the right to the protection of the moral and material interests resulting from any scientific, literary or artistic production of which he is the author. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
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