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Re: new powers for employers to read employees' email

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From: seajays
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 23:13
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In article <l9ZJ5.254$Rc6.25682@news1.cableinet.net>,
  "Mike Read" <mread@cableinet.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Absolutely.  I am not totally convinced by the article either, but I
did feel it was
> worthy of a less dismissive consideration by "seejays".
>

:-)

But no one has yet addressed my fundamental objections to the
principle - that if I so wish, I am entitled to charge for my work.
That is a basic human right of mine.  Until you overcome that, there is
no point debating the article itself, as in principle, the aim of the
article (for a blanket freedom to copy, regardless of the creators
wishes) is wrong.

Someone posted that they couldn't see how a 'number' or a 'bitstream'
could be 'property'.  They are missing the point.  It is not the number
or bitstream, in the same way as you do not copyright the metal in a
mechanism, the paint on a picture or the notes in music.

What you copyright are the arrangements of the cogs, the arrangement of
the paint and the arrangement of the notes.  The 'bitstream' is simply
the 'material' of computer programs, but you are copyrighting the
arrangement not the numbers.

In fact, the 'numbers' argument is a red herring anyway, as *anything*
can be broken down and represented by numbers if you so wished.  Your
own genetic code could be represented thus.  If someone came along and
decided to make a clone of you, using the argument, "but its only a
numeric sequence", would you feel the same way?  Or would you think
that the particular sequence that defines you, ought to be afforded
some protection?


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