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Article #198Re: new powers for employers to read employees' email
From: Angus McBastard
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:39
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:39
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seajays@my-deja.com wrote: > Someone posted that they couldn't see how a 'number' or a 'bitstream' > could be 'property'. They are missing the point. It is not the number > or bitstream, in the same way as you do not copyright the metal in a > mechanism, the paint on a picture or the notes in music. > > What you copyright are the arrangements of the cogs, the arrangement of > the paint and the arrangement of the notes. The 'bitstream' is simply > the 'material' of computer programs, but you are copyrighting the > arrangement not the numbers. Your analogy is weak to say the least, but even using such a tool, you have to agree that the closed source equivalent under this frame of reference is selling a piece of music and then *forbidding* the singing of the *song*. The fact is that a piece of software supplied without source code is a product unfit for consumption. This has been demonstrated empirically time and again. Further, shrink-wrapped software licencing as it stands today supplies no guarantees as to fitness of use of even *object* code and as such contravenes just about every consumer standard you can think of. Software companies, far from suffering from piracy, have been stealing and profiteering from consumers for decades. > In fact, the 'numbers' argument is a red herring anyway, as *anything* > can be broken down and represented by numbers if you so wished. Your > own genetic code could be represented thus. If someone came along and > decided to make a clone of you, using the argument, "but its only a > numeric sequence", would you feel the same way? Or would you think > that the particular sequence that defines you, ought to be afforded > some protection? > To address this issue, let me put it in another light for you.... Do you find it acceptable for Monsato to have a patent on *your* genetic sequence? Angus -- It said WinNT 4.0 or better on the box. So I installed Linux.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 10b574,cf6971c789d68a89 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b574,public X-Google-Thread: f6783,cf6971c789d68a89 X-Google-Attributes: gidf6783,public X-Google-Thread: fea0e,cf6971c789d68a89 X-Google-Attributes: gidfea0e,public X-Google-Thread: 10b88a,cf6971c789d68a89 X-Google-Attributes: gid10b88a,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2000-10-26 23:40:53 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!news.tele.dk!128.39.3.166!uninett.no!newsfeed1.enitel.no!masternews.telia.net!newsc.telia.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <39F92280.600A277A@my-deja.com> From: Angus McBastard <angusmcb@my-deja.com> Organization: The Milk Marketing Board X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.0-test8 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: eunet.misc,uk.legal,uk.politics.misc,uk.misc Subject: Re: new powers for employers to read employees' email References: <kqgavso9d8ugqufmkcveqqj71t8je4sv6e@4ax.com> <8t3g8p$aj$2@wallace.stir.ac.uk> <8t3pjt$qte$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8t3qti$bp$1@wallace.stir.ac.uk> <8t4alc$98a$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <CbpJ5.3584$MK5.360545@news1.cableinet.net> <8t6805$sbv$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <u1BJ5.4475$MK5.452604@news1.cableinet.net> <39F6E5CE.3179C81F@my-deja.com> <8t9bpq$dng$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <39F84080.28C3F4E3@my-deja.com> <l9ZJ5.254$Rc6.25682@news1.cableinet.net> <8tadrg$b3d$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 49 Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 06:39:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.20.153.94 X-Complaints-To: abuse@telia.com X-Trace: newsc.telia.net 972628753 62.20.153.94 (Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:39:13 CEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:39:13 CEST