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Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan)

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From: Dave McLane
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:44
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claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:

>Dave> So I understand. Not that I doubt what you say, but it's just that I
>Dave> wanted some authorative reference. 

>I don't know about Kyoto, but in Tokyo there's a section only for
>"visa consultation" inside the immigration office in Ootemachi.
>I have used that service many times and they provided me with all
>information I wanted. I recommend to look for such service if you
>want more information. I can also recommend a telephone service
>with pre-recorded messages about frequently asked question to
>the immigration office. You can get a list in the Ootemachi
>Immigration office. (I don't know if this kind of service is
>available in Kyoto). The other way is to call directly the immigration
>office and after dozens of tries I think you can get them... :-)

Sorry, but all I would get is what some local person said which
isn't what I would call 'authoratative'. 

>Dave> You see what I find very curious is why such a big thing is made of
>Dave> having to change your name, but no mention is made of how people
>Dave> born in Japan of non-Japanese parents are not able to hold dual
>Dave> nationality. 

>By international laws there are two ways which countries can give
>nationality: "Being born in this country" or "By blood" (of course,
>there are very nice latin names for both of these terms...:-) ).
>In Japan, unfortunately, one person can only get nationality having
>japanese parents or naturalizing (Very difficult, I think, if you
>don't have a japanese spouse...)

Uhhh, what international laws are these? I'm under the impression
that laws having to do with nationality are made on a country-by-
country basis.

In any case my point was that I find it curious that many Koreans
make a lot out of having to change their name if and when they
become Japanese nationals but very little is said about having to
give up their Korean nationality. Conclusion: Koreans place more
value on their name than their nationality. 

As I said, I find it curious as I would think you'd just have a
legal name (Japanese) and an ordinary everyday name (Korean).... 

Dave

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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
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Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan)
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