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Re: No money for basic research?(was Re: How to survive in Japan [English]

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From: Kenji Rikitake
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:27
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In article <CLAUDE.92Sep14152928@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
 |Kenji> It's very sad to find out that only few domains in Japan are
 |Kenji> read-write accessible to non-fj newsgroups. And it's really disgusting
 |Kenji> that very very few Japanese domains are paying money for overseas
 |Kenji> email traffic. I urge those domain to subscribe international mail
 |Kenji> service such as InetClub or UUNET ASAP; otherwise they do a very
 |Kenji> harmful thing to our Internet society.

 |YES.... However, the main problem is university in Japan is **Terribly**
 |underfunded... It's cheaper and easier to get basic research from the
 |US or Europe. Don't forget that both Junet and Wide-net were 
 |started not from governamental agencies, but from some brave professors.
 |I really admire them.... 

I respect Prof. Jun Murai and other founders of WIDE/TISN/JAIN and
JUNET projects too. They are getting their money mostly from
non-governmental organizations so that they keep themselves free from
gov't policies. But what I'm saying is something different -
piggying-back to an academic link to perform not-exactly-academic
communication WITHOUT paying money is indeed UNFAIR.

I see many organizations who are violating the usage rule of Japan-US
academic link - the link is only for academic and WIDE-supporting
organizations (such as mei.co.jp and astem.or.jp). I insist that those
who want to join and support Internet culture MUST have international
reachablity by their own money - since it's technically very expensive
and time-consuming to make international email UNreachable. Just
paying some ten-thousand-yen bills to InetClub or subscribing UUNET
will solve this problem peacefully.

 |In my opinion this system is mutually perverse: US taxpayers paying 
 |billions of dollars in basic research to Japanese corporates use it
 |in their products and Japanese universities condemned to be ethernal
 |workforce "repositories"  to Japanese companies. 

Their have to be some kind of borderless economy and agreements
between nations on the Internet - otherwise somebody will pay too much
and somebody will pay too less.

// Kenji
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From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
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Subject: Re: No money for basic research?(was Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
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