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Article #7699Let's face it. (In English)
From: Gerald B. Mathias
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1992 06:21
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1992 06:21
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t_yamasi@hoffman.cc.sophia.ac.jp (Yamashiki Tsuyoshi): >$B!!$*$b$7$m$$%a!<%k$r$$$?$@$-$^$7$?!#(B ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Half-Orcs are, let's face it, ugly. >>$B$3$NJ8L.$@$H!"!V$O$C$-$j8@$C$F!W$H$$$&Cj>]E*$J0UL#$G$O$J$/!"(B >>$B$[$s$H$K(B face it (it = orc's face) $B$9$k$s$8$c$J$$$G$7$g$&$+!)(B >>$B!V@5;k$KBQ$($J$$$N$G8+$?$/$J$$$,!"$"$($F2fK}$7$F8+$k$H!"!J$d$C$Q$j=9$$!K!W(B [several poetic paraphrases deleted] >>$B$H$$$&$N$O$I$&$G$7$g$&!)(B -------------------------------------------------------------- >$B$3$N2r<a$K$O$V$C$?$^$2$^$7$?!#$?$@$7<g$J0UL#$,$3$l$G$"$k$H$O;W$($^$;$s!#(B >$B$7$+$7$=$&$$$&^/Mn$,4^$^$l$F$$$k$H$$$&2DG=@-$O$"$j$^$9$7!"Hs>o$KLLGr$$(B >$B$H;W$$$^$7$?!#(B >Readers of which English is your first language, what do you say? >I'd really like to know. Bart Mathias $@$H?=$7$^$9!#(J $@59$7$/$*4j$$CW$7(J$@$^$9!#(J I haven't seen a response to Mr. Yamashiki's query, so I feel the call of duty as a reader of which English is my first language. Mr. Nishikawa's suggestion is ingenious, and all his suggested translations strike me as being in the ball park (on the right track), but as for the specific interpretation "(it = orc's face)," there are two reasons why it would be difficult for a native speaker to get. 1) We are too familiar with the expression "Let's face it" and accustomed to understanding "it" to mean "this fact that we would like to avoid if we could." 2) The sentence begins "Half-Orcs ARE." Thus there is more than one (half-) orc, and we would have to face "them," not "it." There is a growing tendency in English to say "it" for "them," but I think not so soon after a plural verb. To the extent I can appreciate the Japanese, I found Mr. Kawai's transla- tions masterful. Sorry about the English. I do not yet have Japanese-text input capabilities. Bart Mathias
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: ffb0e,70400a824be8430b,start X-Google-Attributes: gidffb0e,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-06-19 16:30:42 PST Newsgroups: fj.sci.lang Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!munnari.oz.au!news.hawaii.edu!uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu!mathias From: mathias@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Gerald B. Mathias) Subject: Let's face it. (In English) Message-ID: <1992Jun20.062122.15702@news.Hawaii.Edu> Sender: root@news.Hawaii.Edu (News Service) Nntp-Posting-Host: uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu Organization: University of Hawaii Distribution: fj Date: Sat, 20 Jun 1992 06:21:22 GMT Lines: 48