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Article #1267Re: cotse udp (was Re: DAVD MOORE'S Illegal Attempt to Defraud Divorcing Men)
From: Clandestiny
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:52
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:52
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:45:15 +0000, Howard Goldstein wrote: > I don't have enough time to teach newsbot how to distinguish him from the > m2news gateways anymore and have therefore just put cotse on the "anon > remailer" UDP. If anyone in Fla objects to this, please discuss in > fl.config. Cotse is a cut above service administered by stand up people. One of it's purposes is to shield users from the retributions that may be foisted on them by wack jobs like Ken Pangborn. I agree that if Cotse is being abused something should be done, but attempting to UDP the entire service is anal retentive at best, and impossible in practice. Especially so considering the target of this alleged abuse, and the possibility that Ken himself is the one posting the flood of messages in an attempt to silence a Cotse user who routinely exposes him for the cretin he is. There's a fair chance you're being played like a cheap fiddle, Howard. A better tact would be to contact Cotse and work on the problem outside the realm of the jerking knee. Steve is more than willing to handle such abuses. That willingness has been demonstrated first hand in war zones like APAS/AP should you care to invest some minimal resources in a bit of research. And if you HAVE neither the time nor the inclination to address the problem in a productive, rational manner, maybe the job should be handled by someone who does? Last but not least, your "UDP" is toothless. In fact, labeling it a UDP is self-aggrandizing, as it's at very best an "FL.*DP". Regardless of that triviality, remailer users post to the fl hierarchy routinely, as do Cotse subscribers, regardless of any filtering you have in place. Not to mention the fact that even a SUCCESSFUL censoring of these two sources would would do little or nothing to thwart a dedicated abuser. They're not the only game in town. Adjusting a filter may make you feel better, but your perception of self is irrelevant in the in the surreal world of Usenet. You're accomplishing nothing, and penalizing innocent bystanders in the process.
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