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PROBABLY MOORE
"Clandestiny" <clandestiny@dcemail.com> wrote in message 
news:pan.2005.09.12.13.51.56.579947@dcemail.com...
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:45:15 +0000, Howard Goldstein wrote:
>
>> I don't have enough time to teach newsbot how to distinguish him from the
>> m2news gateways anymore and have therefore just put cotse on the "anon
>> remailer" UDP.  If anyone in Fla objects to this, please discuss in
>> fl.config.
>
> Cotse is a cut above service administered by stand up people. One of it's
> purposes is to shield users from the retributions that may be foisted on
> them by wack jobs like Ken Pangborn. I agree that if Cotse is being abused
> something should be done, but attempting to UDP the entire service is anal
> retentive at best, and impossible in practice. Especially so considering
> the target of this alleged abuse, and the possibility that Ken himself is
> the one posting the flood of messages in an attempt to silence a Cotse
> user who routinely exposes him for the cretin he is. There's a fair chance
> you're being played like a cheap fiddle, Howard.

    Well if you had half a brain you'd have to examine this idea that I am 
doing it myself. Since 100% of the posts appearing on the florida 
newsgrioups via COTSE are attacks on me. There are NO other users posting to 
the Florida newsgroups via COTSE. So there would be NO POINT to me making 
those posts attacking myself to get one of COTSE's fine upstanding users 
silenced. Nobody plays Howard he has seen this SAD saga for years and knows 
who is who.

> A better tact would be to contact Cotse and work on the problem outside
> the realm of the jerking knee. Steve is more than willing to handle such
> abuses. That willingness has been demonstrated first hand in war zones
> like APAS/AP should you care to invest some minimal resources in a bit of
> research. And if you HAVE neither the time nor the inclination to address
> the problem in a productive, rational manner, maybe the job should be
> handled by someone who does?

    Steve is probably now aware of the situation and has already addrtessed 
it.

> Last but not least, your "UDP" is toothless. In fact, labeling it
> a UDP is self-aggrandizing, as it's at very best an "FL.*DP". Regardless
> of that triviality, remailer users post to the fl hierarchy routinely, as
> do Cotse subscribers, regardless of any filtering you have in place. Not
> to mention the fact that even a SUCCESSFUL censoring of these two sources
> would would do little or nothing to thwart a dedicated abuser. They're not
> the only game in town. Adjusting a filter may make you feel better, but
> your perception of self is irrelevant in the in the surreal world of
> Usenet. You're accomplishing nothing, and penalizing innocent bystanders
> in the process.

    Sounds like a BULLY speaking. Which for remailer users is entirely 
expected.