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Article #1275Re: RFD to UDP the bullshit already (was Re: Reminder to Florida about Ken and Peggy Ann Riley Pangborn)
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Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:51
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:51
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In fl.config Howard Goldstein <hgoldste@mpcs.com> wrote: > I retract one of these > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:32:32 GMT, Howard Goldstein <hgoldste@mpcs.com> wrote: > : RFD: > : > : 2. UDP in fl.* on the identifiable principles in this flamewar and > : followups thereto > > After a few tens of seconds of calm thought with a cup of coffee and a > cigarette I believe #2 would be ill advised because there's no good > way to enforce this and it would cause more contention than it would > solve. It really is easy enough to filter it out... > > : 1. In fl.* only, a UDP on the remailers that allow forged From:s > : (I think there are three of them, the folks in apas can help out > : here)(note I would not be in favor of UDPing cotse however) > > But no retraction here. I propose a UDP in fl.* on shinn.net > mixmaster remailings because of the following forgeries: Have you looked at the headers or bothered to contact the admin of the gateway (apparently not)? The examples you give are not from our remailer, but are from the Frog remailer (we do not allow forged from: lines thru our remailer) and our policy specifically forbids forging from: lines thru our mail2news gateway. Forged from: lines, when reported, will be blocked thru our gateway. > #1 > > Path: ...!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.net!intermedia!plonk.apk.net!news.apk.net!newsfeed2.skycache.com!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!news.tele.dk!mixmaster.shinn.net!usenet-gateway-x2!usenet-gateway > Return-Path: <FrogBounce@iFrance.com> > Date: 30 Mar 2001 02:26:29 -0000 > Message-ID: <LW1QQVWO36980.1850578704@frog.nyarlatheotep.org> > From: "R.J. Goldman" <rgoldman@bellsouth.net> > Subject: New tale (ff) > Newsgroups: fl.general,alt.sex.stories > X-No-Archive: yes > Comments: This message probably did not originate from the above address. > It was automatically remailed by one or more anonymous mail services. > You should NEVER trust ANY address on Usenet ANYWAYS: use PGP !!! > Get information about complaints from the URL below > X-Remailer-Contact: http://yi.org/frogadmin/ > Mail-To-News-Contact: mail2news-abuse@mixmaster.shinn.net > Organization: mail2news@mixmaster.shinn.net > Lines: 1710 > > [snip] > > #2 > > Path: ...!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!mixmaster.shinn.net!usenet-gateway-x2!usenet-gateway > Return-Path: <FrogBounce@iFrance.com> > Date: 30 Mar 2001 00:35:34 -0000 > Message-ID: <81XHLY4E36980.1080324074@frog.nyarlatheotep.org> > From: Marsha <mhuckins@bellsouth.net> > Subject: About the simpsons > Newsgroups: fl.general,alt.tv.simpsons > Comments: This message probably did not originate from the above address. > It was automatically remailed by one or more anonymous mail services. > You should NEVER trust ANY address on Usenet ANYWAYS: use PGP !!! > Get information about complaints from the URL below > X-Remailer-Contact: http://yi.org/frogadmin/ > Mail-To-News-Contact: mail2news-abuse@mixmaster.shinn.net > Organization: mail2news@mixmaster.shinn.net Again, look at the headers. These a posts from the Frog remailer gatewayed by our mail2news gateway. One simple e-mail to us would suffice to have thge forged from: lines blocked, but thats not going to solve the problem of that from: line being forged the Frog remailer (and any other host we do not have control over). - -- Shinn.net Anonymous Remailer Admin PGP Key 1 ID: 0x736D4146 PGP Key 2 ID: 0x59FD8B75 Key 1 print = 043E 1ADA 5B71 EECC3753 6274 3ADF 478D 736D4146 Key 2 print = 6055 D1EC FA25 C8D555B2 7F76 817A FC55 59FD8B75 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQA/AwUBOtgBKDrfR41zbUFGEQLw2QCggMbNox+PlmWpm2AF86qeM3CK5K4AoJFR 0TIbhfDp5QEh2iC2/khT8xuV =LOx2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 101eb4,18d51ea52984e7cd X-Google-Attributes: gid101eb4,public X-Google-Thread: 112e5d,f5ccd8a9e389c1a6,start X-Google-Attributes: gid112e5d,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-04-14 00:52:03 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!cyclone-sjo1.usenetserver.com!news-out-sjo.usenetserver.com!iad-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!sjc-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Sender: <admin@lexx.shinn.net> From: admin@mixmaster.shinn.net.no.spam.to Subject: Re: RFD to UDP the bullshit already (was Re: Reminder to Florida about Ken and Peggy Ann Riley Pangborn) Newsgroups: fl.general,fl.config References: <KOXA6.2438$2E4.125463@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <20010412010205.09131.00002991@ng-mm1.aol.com> <7ugB6.892$Pj2.114788@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net> <987089553.17774@news.queue.to> <987091916.17928@news.queue.to> Lines: 88 Message-ID: <FjTB6.19583$FS3.325576@sjc-read.news.verio.net> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:51:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.157.138.131 X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net X-Trace: sjc-read.news.verio.net 987234661 205.157.138.131 (Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:51:01 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2001 07:51:01 GMT Organization: Verio