🚀 go-pugleaf

<admin@mixmaster.shinn.net.no.spam.to> wrote in message
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> In fl.config Howard Goldstein <hgoldste@mpcs.com> wrote:
> > I retract one of these
> >
> > On Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:32:32 GMT, Howard Goldstein <hgoldste@mpcs.com>
wrote:
> > : RFD:
> > :
> > :    2. UDP in fl.* on the identifiable principles in this flamewar and
> > :    followups thereto
> >
> > After a few tens of seconds of calm thought with a cup of coffee and a
> > cigarette I believe #2 would be ill advised because there's no good
> > way to enforce this and it would cause more contention than it would
> > solve.  It really is easy enough to filter it out...
> >
> > :    1.  In fl.* only, a UDP on the remailers that allow forged From:s
> > :    (I think there are three of them, the folks in apas can help out
> > :    here)(note I would not be in favor of UDPing cotse however)
> >
> > But no retraction here.  I propose a UDP in fl.* on shinn.net
> > mixmaster remailings because of the following forgeries:
>
> Have you looked at the headers or bothered to contact the admin of the
> gateway (apparently not)?  The examples you give are not from our
remailer,
> but are from the Frog remailer (we do not allow forged from: lines thru
> our remailer) and our policy specifically forbids forging from: lines
> thru our mail2news gateway.  Forged from: lines, when reported, will be
> blocked thru our gateway.

    Any more, Mike. You used to. BTW Forg will BLOCK it if asked. They are
perhaps the BEST remailer on policing such activities. If enough
participants in a newsgroup complain they will block it. Shinn, however will
NOT!

> > #1
> >
> > Path:
...!jfk3-feed1.news.digex.net!intermedia!plonk.apk.net!news.apk.net!newsfeed
2.skycache.com!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news
.gtei.net!news.tele.dk!mixmaster.shinn.net!usenet-gateway-x2!usenet-gateway
> > Return-Path: <FrogBounce@iFrance.com>
> > Date: 30 Mar 2001 02:26:29 -0000
> > Message-ID: <LW1QQVWO36980.1850578704@frog.nyarlatheotep.org>
> > From: "R.J. Goldman" <rgoldman@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: New tale (ff)
> > Newsgroups: fl.general,alt.sex.stories
> > X-No-Archive: yes
> > Comments: This message probably did not originate from the above
address.
> >        It was automatically remailed by one or more anonymous mail
services.
> >        You should NEVER trust ANY address on Usenet ANYWAYS: use PGP !!!
> >        Get information about complaints from the URL below
> > X-Remailer-Contact: http://yi.org/frogadmin/
> > Mail-To-News-Contact: mail2news-abuse@mixmaster.shinn.net
> > Organization: mail2news@mixmaster.shinn.net
> > Lines: 1710
> >
> > [snip]
> >
> > #2
> >
> > Path:
...!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!mixmaster.shinn.net!usenet-gateway-x2
!usenet-gateway
> > Return-Path: <FrogBounce@iFrance.com>
> > Date: 30 Mar 2001 00:35:34 -0000
> > Message-ID: <81XHLY4E36980.1080324074@frog.nyarlatheotep.org>
> > From: Marsha <mhuckins@bellsouth.net>
> > Subject: About the simpsons
> > Newsgroups: fl.general,alt.tv.simpsons
> > Comments: This message probably did not originate from the above
address.
> >        It was automatically remailed by one or more anonymous mail
services.
> >        You should NEVER trust ANY address on Usenet ANYWAYS: use PGP !!!
> >        Get information about complaints from the URL below
> > X-Remailer-Contact: http://yi.org/frogadmin/
> > Mail-To-News-Contact: mail2news-abuse@mixmaster.shinn.net
> > Organization: mail2news@mixmaster.shinn.net
>
> Again, look at the headers.  These a posts from the Frog remailer
> gatewayed by our mail2news gateway.  One simple e-mail to us would
> suffice to have thge forged from: lines blocked, but thats not
> going to solve the problem of that from: line being forged the Frog
> remailer (and any other host we do not have control over).

    But blocking victim newsgroups through your    gateway WOULD Mike.