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Re: Pingers/Remops: Lunatic Eelbash at it again

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From: Nomen Nescio
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 00:30
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THIS UNWANTED GARBAGE ORIGINATED FROM AND BROUGHT TO YOU COURTESY OF:

PATRICK PARIS -- SHITBAG
PATRICK PARIS -- FAILED HUMAN BEING
PATRICK PARIS -- CONVICTED SEX OFFENDER
PATRICK PARIS -- SHITBAG FLOODER





Eelbash Admin wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:31:40 +0000, Anonymous wrote:
> 
> 
>>>Although I have the highest respect for Twisty's corporate legal
>>>counsel, I have more respect for somebody like Zax, who said yesterday
>>>that he has flood filters in his remailer and even added some more.
>>
>>Why don't you use your one remaining brain cell to read what Zax wrote
>>again.
>>
>>He installed nntp filters. Those are for his usenet server.
> 
> 
> I stand corrected; but isn't filtering a flood going out through an nntp
> server the same, legally, ethically, and morally (what is the
> difference between ethics and morals?) as filtering a flood going through
> an smtp server?

It is not.

> If Zax thinks filtering a flood through an nntp server is ok, then I still
> feel that I can appeal to that example as a justification for filtering a
> flood going through my smtp server.

Steve is filtering 'floods' (BI and stuff like that). You are filtering
on keywords.

And to me Steve's news server is just like any other newsserver that
carries remailer messages. People that complain about anonymous messages
have to complain to the last remailer in the chain.

Even Frog-Admin filtered at his news server. I think he also filtered at
his remailer though, but I am not sure. You are a lot worse when it
comes to filtering and distorting message content. I can't decide if you
are a joke or a danger to the remailing community. Do you even feel you
are part of it?

I hope Zax or Twisty will clear up the legal aspects of this filtering.
In any case, the filtering at Zax' news server is automated and not all
groups are monitored. Only APA-S.

I think you should see the news service and remailer service as separate
identities.

Thomas
- --
Gothika: "How can you trust someone who thinks you are crazy"

<<==========>>

Subject: Re: Serious question, related to this "Pangborn" stuff

" krp" <web2457k@verizon.net> wrote:
>DAVEY MOORE  -  AGAIN
>"AD" <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote in message 
>news:VIZIJ8T738641.2290740741@reece.net.au...
>> "Jeffrey F. Bloss" <jbloss@tampabay.mapson.rr.com> wrote:
>>>^  krp ! wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Sounds like RATIONALIZATION............... *I* have NEVER NEVER 
>>>> NEVER
>>>> NEVER NEVER NEVER used a remailer. GOT IT MORON? NEVER!
>>>> I do NOT have the anonymizing software on my computers. PERIOD!
>>>
>>>Message-ID: <TNK938ME38419.5208101852@reece.net.au>
>>>Message-ID: <tjhXd.77945$Dc.44771@trnddc06>
>>>
>>>The same message posted first through a remailer, then through your own
>>>account.
>>>
>>
>> In regard to the message IDs mentioned above, which are also mentioned on
>> the page www.aboutkenpangborn.com/altatheism.html.  To me this seems to
>> indicate that Kenny is guilty of the very offenses which he accuses others
>> of:  forging and harassing through the remailers. The message posted
>> through the remailer looks like it was a forgery of someone else in 
>> another
>> group, and the fact that Kenny a short while later sent the exact same 
>> text
>> from his known address makes it indeed seem that he was the forger.  Could
>> I be interpreting this wrong?
>>
>> If he indeed is the sender, then it would seem he is delibarately abusing
>> remailers so that he can have more ammunition in his arguments here in
>> APAS.  I am curious to know how others may interpret these facts.
>
>
>
>
>OF COURSE YOU DO DAVEY!

My name isn't Davey.  I know you're paranoid, kook, but perhaps you can get
the idea that everyone isn't "Moore".

And as usual, I note that you have no comments on the actual facts which
prove you again and again to be full of shit.

<<==========>>

Subject: Re: rbtor going down - ISP problems!!!!!

In article <74tqk1pvnbbcb686ge7mnq7j9fuj9jf31f@4ax.com>
admin_rbtor <admin^@^rbtor^.^net> wrote:
>
> Ok, so I got into trouble with my ISP for operating a re-mailer. They consider
> it a server which is outside of the TOS of the agreement.
>
> They were polite, but asked I shut it down as soon a convenient. I have to
> oblige them as they are the only cable Internet provider I can choose.
>
> Darn it, just when it seemed to be operating OK.
>
> Sorry all. I'll try to figure something else out. I know a lot more now than
> when I started.
>
> Dingo had been showing my stats at 100%
>
> http://dingo.1hwy.com/Dingorlist2.html
>
> http://dingo.1hwy.com/Dingomlist2.html
>
> Sorry all. I think I had been processing nearly 10,000 messages a day or more
> if you include stats pings. Not bad for a beginning re-mailer. Hope all is
> well with all. May everyone be happy and healthy and my best wishes.
>
> Sorry, I just have to go before I wind up in a deep pile of doo doo.
>
> Regards all,
>
> rbtor_admin

You could always:

1) Go middleman. Your ISP would never know (i.e. never be able 
to trace any messages back to you).

2) Send all your outgoing mail via another annoymizing service 
(eg COTSE). Remailers have been run like this in the past.

<<==========>>

Subject: Re: Why can't THRASHER admin stop objectionable posts?

In article <QKPRPVAT38659.3259490741@reece.net.au>
Wolfgang Wolferwitz <thrasher@reece.net.au> wrote:
>
> A simple VB script would prevent us from having to read the rambling of
> this sick mind. It is becoming a right pain in the proverbial having to
> sift through all the chaff just to read the occasional article written
> by someone with a sane mind.
>
> --
> Kind Regards, Wolfgang


Shut up Eelbash, if you want a filter, write one.   I wrote mine.

it is NOT up to servers and M2N's to do this, it's up to users 
to decide
what they do or do not want to read.


-=-
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