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6 total messages Started by Louise Penberthy Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:00
anyone gotten a waiver after failing emissions?
#370
Author: Louise Penberthy
Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 00:00
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The car I'm driving didn't pass emissons, and so I may be in the
position of spending the requisite $200 mininum and trying for a waiver
if it doesn't pass the second time.  Has anyone had to do this, and what
was your experience?  Please e-mail me privately at
louisep@mindspring.com if you think this isn't appropriate for general
discussion on this group.

The car, BTW, is an '83 Honda Civic Wagon, 5 speed, 152K.  It passed on
all measures except for CO% at 2500 RPM; that was 1.60%, and 1.50% is
the max.  The shop I take it to says it is burning oil (which I think is
probably true), which is causing the high emissions readings.
Thanks.

-- Louise

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Re: anyone gotten a waiver after failing emissions?
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Author: Xiao-Long Li
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 00:00
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In article <E8w5ow.vr@n4vu.Atl.GA.US>, John Miller <jsm@n4vu.Atl.GA.US> wrote:
>: David A. Lyons (lyonsd@mindspring.com) wrote:
>Thanks -- did that.  New plugs, new dist. cap, new vacuum advance 
>diaphragm, new plug wires, new rotor, new catalytic converter, 
>set timing, fixed vacuum leaks, new O2 sensor -- did I miss anything?  

How about Air Filter, Fuel Filter, EGR valve?  Do you have Carb or FI?
Check the choke if you have Carb.  BTW, which part of the emission did you
fail? 


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Xiao-Long Li  (Shaw)  :)
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Re: anyone gotten a waiver after failing emissions?
#366
Author: John Miller
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 00:00
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: David A. Lyons (lyonsd@mindspring.com) wrote:
 
: Or, perhaps in addition to burning oil, incomplete combustion is
: occurring.  Check the plugs.
: 
Thanks -- did that.  New plugs, new dist. cap, new vacuum advance 
diaphragm, new plug wires, new rotor, new catalytic converter, 
set timing, fixed vacuum leaks, new O2 sensor -- did I miss anything?  

Best,
-- 
John Miller, N4VU      Linux!           Opinions?  My employer pays me for 
jsm@mindspring.com     IZCC #766        mine, so I'll be darned if I'll let 
Fayetteville, GA       DoD #1942        any good ones escape onto the net!  
Re: anyone gotten a waiver after failing emissions?
#367
Author: John Miller
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 00:00
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Xiao-Long Li (gt6374b@prism.gatech.edu) wrote:

: How about Air Filter, Fuel Filter, EGR valve?  Do you have Carb or FI?
: Check the choke if you have Carb.  BTW, which part of the emission did you
: fail? 

Fuel injected.  Air filter and EGR valve new; fuel filter is not, but
it flows enough fuel that it never misses at high speed.  I missed the 
CO at 2500 rpm, just like the first poster.  
-- 
John Miller, N4VU      Linux!           Opinions?  My employer pays me for 
jsm@mindspring.com     IZCC #766        mine, so I'll be darned if I'll let 
Fayetteville, GA       DoD #1942        any good ones escape onto the net!  
Re: anyone gotten a waiver after failing emissions?
#368
Author: David A. Lyons
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 00:00
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John Miller wrote:
> 
> Just like yours, mine passed everything but the CO at 2500.  BTW, I
> don't see how burning oil would cause a high CO reading -- high CO is
> caused by incomplete combustion.  You'd expect burning oil to fail you
> in the hydrocarbon category.

Or, perhaps in addition to burning oil, incomplete combustion is
occurring.  Check the plugs.

--
David Lyons
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mailto:lyonsd@mindspring.com
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Re: anyone gotten a waiver after failing emissions?
#369
Author: John Miller
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 00:00
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Louise Penberthy (lpenberthy@atlnewmedia.com) wrote:
: The car I'm driving didn't pass emissons, and so I may be in the
: position of spending the requisite $200 mininum and trying for a waiver
: if it doesn't pass the second time.  Has anyone had to do this, and what
: was your experience?  Please e-mail me privately at
: louisep@mindspring.com if you think this isn't appropriate for general
: discussion on this group.
: 
: The car, BTW, is an '83 Honda Civic Wagon, 5 speed, 152K.  It passed on
: all measures except for CO% at 2500 RPM; that was 1.60%, and 1.50% is
: the max.  The shop I take it to says it is burning oil (which I think is
: probably true), which is causing the high emissions readings.
: Thanks.

Yes, I got a waiver this year for my '81 280ZX (260,000 miles, thank you 
very much).  Pretty much a no-hassle situation.  The steps are: 

- spend however much more than $200 as your conscience dictates
- go back and fail the second test
- go to the waiver place, present your receipts, and be prepared 
  to pop your hood for a visual inspection.  

Just like yours, mine passed everything but the CO at 2500.  BTW, I
don't see how burning oil would cause a high CO reading -- high CO is
caused by incomplete combustion.  You'd expect burning oil to fail you
in the hydrocarbon category.  

Good luck,
-- 
John Miller, N4VU      Linux!           Opinions?  My employer pays me for 
jsm@mindspring.com     IZCC #766        mine, so I'll be darned if I'll let 
Fayetteville, GA       DoD #1942        any good ones escape onto the net!  
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