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Re: xboard and WinBoard 4.2.4 released

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From: Joel Rivat
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 09:09
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Tim Mann <usenet@tim-mann.org> wrote:
: In article <MPG.16819a496b656dbd98988f@news.cyburban.com>, Alberich wrote:
:> So, I hit a nerve, huh? My accurate assessments of the deficiences of 
:> Winboard are pretty on the nose, I'm sorry to say.

: No, that wasn't the nerve you hit.  The nerve you hit was one that
: gets raw for a lot of free, open source software authors -- the one
: that aches when people who get things for free just keep demanding
: more and more, and are not even polite about it.

<...>

: I guess you think your message was a sort of contribution -- you say
: you're trying to help.  Well, it's helpful to know what users want.
: It's more pleasant when they can say what they want with some
: politeness and respect.  Also, in this case, all but one of the items
: you suggested have been suggested many times before, and I'm well
: aware that adding them would be an improvement.  None of them can be
: done with "a few lines of code" -- if I'm mistaken about that, please
: demonstrate by writing those lines of code and contributing them.  The
: one new suggestion was having multiple PGN files with index windows
: open at once.  The fact that no one else suggested that before may
: give you a hint that others don't see it as being such an important
: feature as you seem to.  I'll certainly record it on the wishlist,
: though, where it will sit with the couple hundred other items people
: have asked for until someone gets itchy enough to code it up and
: contribute it.

: -- 
: Tim Mann  usenet@tim-mann.org  http://www.tim-mann.org/


  There was a time when xboard and gnuchess were almost 
the only chess tools available as free software. So people wanted
them improved to be everything, a chess database, a powerful
PGN editor and so on, but nobody has contributed the code.
  Now there are other programs like SCID which satisfy these wishes,
and I think xboard is now the most pertinent as it has always been:
a simple and easy tool to play chess against a chess engine or
with an opponent via ICS.
  So Tim instead of adding anything on the wishlist, just remove
from it what is about database and so on, and continue to maintain
and improve slowly your engine interface. This is the strong point
which has permitted the concept of chess engine, even in commercial
products. It must be continued as free and open standard.
  Thank you so much for having made xboard !

-- 
        Jo�l Rivat
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From: Joel Rivat <rivat@platon.iecn.u-nancy.fr>
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Subject: Re: xboard and WinBoard 4.2.4 released
Date: 13 Dec 2001 09:09:55 GMT
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