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Philippe> Is there an easy way to painlessly reorder VM folders ? What
Philippe> I'd like would be a way to view a VM-summary and tell "move
Philippe> mail#3 after mail#7". Anybody has written such an extension?

There is a way to do this, but I can't think of it right now.

However, there is a problem with it.  The order of the messages are
kept in the _header_ of the first (physical) message of your mail box.
So, if after _arranging_ your mail messages, you happen to
delete the first message...you loose your _re-arranged_ order.

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mun@corp.hp.com writes:
 > Philippe> Is there an easy way to painlessly reorder VM folders ? What
 > Philippe> I'd like would be a way to view a VM-summary and tell "move
 > Philippe> mail#3 after mail#7". Anybody has written such an extension?
 > 
 > There is a way to do this, but I can't think of it right now.

vm-move-message-forward  (ESC C-n)
vm-move-message-backward (ESC C-p)

 > However, there is a problem with it.  The order of the messages are
 > kept in the _header_ of the first (physical) message of your mail box.
 > So, if after _arranging_ your mail messages, you happen to
 > delete the first message...you loose your _re-arranged_ order.

This shouldn't happen.  The header is stuffed into the new first
message in the folder, if there is one.  There may be a bug that
prevents this from happening, though.

In article <9211191827.AA03924@crystal.wonderworks.com> kyle@crystal.wonderworks.com (Kyle Jones) writes:

> mun@corp.hp.com writes:
>  > Philippe> Is there an easy way to painlessly reorder VM folders ? What
>  > Philippe> I'd like would be a way to view a VM-summary and tell "move
>  > Philippe> mail#3 after mail#7". Anybody has written such an extension?
>  > 
>  > There is a way to do this, but I can't think of it right now.
> 
> vm-move-message-forward  (ESC C-n)
> vm-move-message-backward (ESC C-p)
> 
>  > However, there is a problem with it.  The order of the messages are
>  > kept in the _header_ of the first (physical) message of your mail box.
>  > So, if after _arranging_ your mail messages, you happen to
>  > delete the first message...you loose your _re-arranged_ order.
> 
> This shouldn't happen.  The header is stuffed into the new first
> message in the folder, if there is one.  There may be a bug that
> prevents this from happening, though.

I've always liked this feature, but have never gotten it to work.  I'm now
using VM 5.32(beta) (Epoch 4.2) and whenever I try changing the message
order I get an error.  The error occurs on saving a folder that has been
reordered.  Let me be specific.

I went to a message and typed M-C-p.  It moved up one message.  I typed `S'
to save the folder and got the following error in the minibuffer:

Invalid function: (macro lambda (n) (byte-code "<garbage here>" [n let m (if (< m 0) (-m) m) 3

During previous attempts (using 5.31) I found that a bookmark is created at
the top of the folder, and VM had a problem reading it when reopening the
folder.  I remember it was a parsing error and it said something like "dot
in wrong context".  So I looked at the top of the folder now (after the
above attempt and failure) and found the following in the header:

	X-VM-Message-Order:
		(1X-VM-Bookmark: 64

I deleted it and was able to save the file without error.

Any ideas?  Email would be appreciated.

Howard
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>>>>> "kyle" == Kyle Jones <kyle@crystal.wonderworks.com> writes:

kyle> mun@corp.hp.com writes:
 > Philippe> Is there an easy way to painlessly reorder VM folders ? What
 > Philippe> I'd like would be a way to view a VM-summary and tell "move
 > Philippe> mail#3 after mail#7". Anybody has written such an extension?
 > 
 > There is a way to do this, but I can't think of it right now.

kyle> vm-move-message-forward  (ESC C-n)
kyle> vm-move-message-backward (ESC C-p)

 > However, there is a problem with it.  The order of the messages are
 > kept in the _header_ of the first (physical) message of your mail box.
 > So, if after _arranging_ your mail messages, you happen to
 > delete the first message...you loose your _re-arranged_ order.

kyle> This shouldn't happen.  The header is stuffed into the new first
kyle> message in the folder, if there is one.  There may be a bug that
kyle> prevents this from happening, though.

Well, when I use vm-move-message-backward, for example to get a folder in
the order I want it, my changes aren't saved (even if I do an 'S' to save
the folder).  When I revisit the folder, it's in the original order.
(vm-version is 5.32 (beta))
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> > During previous attempts (using 5.31) I found that a bookmark is created at
> > the top of the folder, and VM had a problem reading it when reopening the
> > folder.  I remember it was a parsing error and it said something like "dot
> > in wrong context".  So I looked at the top of the folder now (after the
> > above attempt and failure) and found the following in the header:
> > 
> > 	X-VM-Message-Order:
> > 		(1X-VM-Bookmark: 64
> > 
> > I deleted it and was able to save the file without error.
>
> This is a new one.  If you see it again in 5.32 let me know.

It's not happening now.

> In the meantime you need to rebuild VM 5.32 from scratch.  Use
> he following Makefile.

Thanks, I rebuilt VM and everything works now.  

One small point, I'd like a change of message order
(vm-move-message-backward) to mark the folder as modified so that a
vm-save-folder will actually save even if nothing else changes.  An
admitidly quick look at vm-group.el didn't show a variable to set to get
this behavior.  Is there one?

Howard
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Howard Melman writes:
 > Invalid function: (macro lambda (n) (byte-code "<garbage here>" [n let m (if (< m 0) (-m) m) 3

This is almost alwyas due to an error building VM.  The original
broken 5.32 Makefile is to blame no doubt.

 > During previous attempts (using 5.31) I found that a bookmark is created at
 > the top of the folder, and VM had a problem reading it when reopening the
 > folder.  I remember it was a parsing error and it said something like "dot
 > in wrong context".  So I looked at the top of the folder now (after the
 > above attempt and failure) and found the following in the header:
 > 
 > 	X-VM-Message-Order:
 > 		(1X-VM-Bookmark: 64
 > 
 > I deleted it and was able to save the file without error.

This is a new one.  If you see it again in 5.32 let me know.

In the meantime you need to rebuild VM 5.32 from scratch.  Use
the following Makefile.

# This is a shell archive.  Save it in a file, remove anything before
# this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file".  Note, it may
# create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and
# have default permissions.
#
# This archive contains:
#
#	Makefile
#
echo x - Makefile
sed 's/^X//' >Makefile << 'END-of-Makefile'
XEMACS=emacs
X
XVM:
X	$(EMACS) -batch -q -l ./vm-message.el -l ./vm-misc.el -f batch-byte-compile *.el
X	cat vm-*.elc > vm.elc
X
Xvm:	vm.texinfo
X	$(EMACS) -batch -q vm.texinfo -f texinfo-format-buffer -f save-buffer
X
Xall:	VM vm
END-of-Makefile
exit