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Re: Epoch as WM

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From: Warner Losh
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 23:04
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In article <JWZ.92Oct7230636@thalidomide.lucid.com> Jamie Zawinski
<jwz@lucid.com> writes: 
>Well, I was mostly joking (mostly.)  If it's harder to handle events in Epoch
>than in GWM, then that just means that GWM has a better design for event
>handling, right?  They're both lisps.

Hmmm.  From what I hear, emacs 19 is supposed to have a better event
handler than epoch (mostly due to epoch's experience with X events).
If this is the case, then it wouldn't be too hard to write a good
window manager with emacs 19.

Having tried to fix the broken selection mechanism in a previous
release of epoch, I understand compeletely the sentiment of its
maintainers for this idea.

When I mentioned it to a friend who lothes X, his reply was something
along the lines of "At least I could configure the window manager to
do the right thing."

Window manager functions aren't all that hard to do right.  Most of
them could even be implemented in LISP code, once you have a dozen or
so primitives in place.  If you wanted emacs to also map windows,
you'd have to be careful of deadlock situations (where the process
blocks until the window manager has finished reparenting the window,
for example).

My friend's other reply was "Cool.  Now emacs and my window manager
won't be beating each other up for swap space..."

Warner

P.S.  This isn't entirely in jest, nor is it entirely serious :-)
-- 
Warner Losh		imp@parcplace.COM	ParcPlace Boulder
I've almost finished my brute force solution to subtlety.
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From: imp@solbourne.com (Warner Losh)
Subject: Re: Epoch as WM
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