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Started by Steve Lincoln
Sat, 16 Feb 1991 18:27
Epoch, DECWindows, OSF/Motif, and the meaning of life...
Author: Steve Lincoln
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 1991 18:27
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 1991 18:27
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Im'm a newcommer, so please forgive my ignorance... I have just gotten epoch 3.2 compiled and running (sort of) under Ultrix/UWS 4.1 on my DECStation 3100, running DEC's X11 with DEC's OSF/Motif 1.0 "Developer's Release" (we will soon have 1.1 running). I have lots of questions: 1) Is there anyone else out there using this configuration? 2) Epoch doesn't seem to deal well with Motif's point to type or click to type modes. How do I turn off epoch's auto-raise feature, etc? Are there any bugs with epoch specifically when used under DECWindows or Motif which I should know about. 3) Where do I get the software necessary to get menus to work on this kind of system. (e.g. xmenu, and the epoch support for it). The issue of course is the degree of compatibility (or lack thereof) between DECWindows and real X11. 4) Customization: Does the minibuffer have to be in a separate window? How do I set icons, the window's titlebars, etc. 5) Has anyone considered or tried adding scrollbars or pulldown menus to epoch, e.g. to help make epoch a very friendly editor for Unix-phobes. Alternatively, does anyone know of any other good non-proprietary software for doing this? (I think the programmers here would rather loose an arm than stop using emacs, of course). Thanks in advance, Steve ============================================================================== Steve Lincoln | MAILING ADDRESS: Director of Informatics | Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research MIT Center for Genome Research | 9 Cambridge Center ===============================| Cambridge, Massachusetts 02142 U.S.A. BITNET: lincoln@mitwibr |============================================== INTERNET: lincoln@genome.wi.edu <<< NOTE: No MIT in there! FAX# 617-258-6505 ==============================================================================
Re: Epoch, DECWindows, OSF/Motif, and the meaning of life...
Author: Alan M. Carroll
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 1991 17:19
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 1991 17:19
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In article <9102161718.AA04983@genome.wi.edu>, joe@GENOME.WI.EDU (Steve Lincoln) writes:
>
> 1) Is there anyone else out there using this configuration?
Not that I know of.
>
> 2) Epoch doesn't seem to deal well with Motif's point to type or click to type
> modes. How do I turn off epoch's auto-raise feature, etc? Are there any bugs
> with epoch specifically when used under DECWindows or Motif which I should
> know about.
You can change the value of auto-raise-screen, or modify the focus
event handler. I am not aware of any Epoch bugs that are specific to
Motif or DECWindows, although there is a bug specific to architectures
that have DATA_SEG_BITS defined, which I discussed here a couple days
ago.
>
> 4) Customization: Does the minibuffer have to be in a separate window? How do
> I set icons, the window's titlebars, etc.
The current implementation of Epoch requires that the minibuffer must
be in a seperate X window. This has issue has been the source of many
a flame war here before, and I have not the strength endure another
one. You might look at the code in anonymous/minibuf.el, which
provides a partial fix.
Epoch provides a number of facilities for changing such attributes.
There are some specialized functions (title, icon-name), and the
general power of (set-property). So, the title can be changed to "bob"
by using either (title "bob") or (set-property "WM_TITLE" "bob").
>
> 5) Has anyone considered or tried adding scrollbars or pulldown menus to
> epoch, e.g. to help make epoch a very friendly editor for Unix-phobes.
Yes, we've considered it, and we have no plans at current for
implementing such features. Several Epoch users have written packages
that support (somewhat) some of these features (in particular
kinstrey@crd.ge.com, whose package uses only Epoch features).
--
Alan M. Carroll "I hate shopping with the reality-impaired"
Epoch Development Team - Susan
CS Grad / U of Ill @ Urbana ...{ucbvax,pur-ee,convex}!cs.uiuc.edu!carroll
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