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Article #1552Re: Fund raising at the FSF
From: Joe Buck
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 23:47
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 23:47
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According to vinsci@brando.uwasa.fi (Leonard Norrgard): >>Unfortunately, I have to use a hoarded X display every day at work. >>The makers of it won't give us sources so we could fix the bugs >>ourselves. Clearly, the X way of distribution is not working... In article <2B49ED1A.7405@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes: >If X were a GPL product, it would be in exactly the same (good but not >great) condition as the publically available X of today. After all >those who contribute patches to GPL products usually do not do so out >of GPL-based coercion; they do so because they like to share. Well, contrafactuals are always difficult, because we have no way to rewind the world, make a single, isolated change (e.g. slap the GPL on X11), crank forward and see what happens. But the only thing I can conclude is that both methods (GPL and X-like copyrights) have their advantages and disadvantages, and the GPL accomplishes more than you say that it does. The first version of gcc was for the Vax, followed soon after by a port to the 68000, if I remember correctly. These are CISC machines; vendors of RISC machines and DSP's that have used gcc would not have benefited as much from gcc's availability if ports to other RISCs and DSPs were not available in source form, and these ports would not have been available without the GPL. Given that, one might argue that if X were GPL'ed, then more X source would be freely available and that this would assist new ports. But on the down side, there would have been considerably less industrial acceptance of X if it were GPL'ed (and I know, the X bashers will now say that this is a good thing). So in answer to Chip's point: those who contribute patches (i.e. small bug fixes and enhancements) to gcc or X do so because they like to share. People who contribute major new ports representing > 1 person-year of work are often doing so because of the GPL (e.g. Motorola's gcc port to the 56000 DSP chip, Analog Devices' gcc-based work on DSP-C, Data General and OSF's contributions to gcc ports, NeXT's work on Objective-C). Without the GPL, none of these would be available to the community in source form. Followups to gnu.misc.discuss. -- Joe Buck jbuck@ohm.berkeley.edu
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!agate!forney.berkeley.edu!jbuck From: jbuck@forney.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,talk.philosophy.misc,alt.usage.english,alt.society.anarchy Subject: Re: Fund raising at the FSF Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss Date: 5 Jan 1993 23:47:50 GMT Organization: U. C. Berkeley Lines: 45 Message-ID: <1id6n6INNcn5@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <2B4854DE.5F42@tct.com> <1993Jan5.090712.9584@uwasa.fi> <2B49ED1A.7405@tct.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: forney.berkeley.edu