Article View: gnu.misc.discuss
Article #1553Re: Fund raising at the FSF
From: Frederick E Gray
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 00:12
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 00:12
32 lines
2420 bytes
2420 bytes
In <1993Jan5.022956.19008@husc3.harvard.edu>, <zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu> (Michael Zeleny) writes: >>So, what you're basically saying is that since you are not free to >>make it non-free, it is not "free" (as has already been mentioned in >>this thread, all these "free"s are not referring to cost, but rather >>to freedom of use). >Nonsense. What I am saying is that I am not free to use GNU in any way >I see fit; more importantly, nor am I free of legal obligation implicit >in, and specific to its use. Consequently, it is not free. Is this so >hard to understand? It is ridiculous to claim that a "freedom" must entail no obligations. Every liberty that is possessed by the people of the pluralistic nations of the world is limited to some extent by a corresponding responsibility. For example, the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution states that "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech...." However, it is a well-known principle that it is illegal to shout "Fire!" in a public place that is not actually ablaze. Furthermore, the press in the United States and in many other societies is allegedly "free." However, it is limited by libel laws and intellectual property considerations. In other words, it is possible and indeed necessary for freedom to be restricted for the common good of the people. The English word "free" has come to embody this connotation. Therefore, the Free Software Foundation is using this word in _exactly the same way_ as it is customarily used. If that is not the usage which Michael Zeleny prefers, then he is not speaking the same language as the rest of us. -- Fred Gray -- fgray@cardinal.ncsc.org -- my personal opinions only
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<1993Jan6.001218.26182@mcnc.org>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!gatech!concert!theo!speedy!cardinal.ncsc.org!fgrayReferences:
<1993Jan3.213759.18973@husc3.harvard.edu> <C0CCt3.CG5@cs.uiuc.edu> <1993Jan5.022956.19008@husc3.harvard.edu>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,talk.philosophy.misc,alt.usage.english,alt.society.anarchy Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!spool.mu.edu!uwm.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!swrinde!gatech!concert!theo!speedy!cardinal.ncsc.org!fgray From: fgray@cardinal.ncsc.org (Frederick E Gray) Subject: Re: Fund raising at the FSF Message-ID: <1993Jan6.001218.26182@mcnc.org> Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss Sender: fgray@cardinal.ncsc.org Nntp-Posting-Host: cardinal.ncsc.org Organization: North Carolina Supercomputing Center References: <1993Jan3.213759.18973@husc3.harvard.edu> <C0CCt3.CG5@cs.uiuc.edu> <1993Jan5.022956.19008@husc3.harvard.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:12:18 GMT Lines: 33