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Article #63354Re: GPL - once more
From: Buddha Buck
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 01:16
Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 01:16
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In article <house.792130774@helios>, ron house <house@helios.usq.EDU.AU> wrote: >bwarsaw@cnri.reston.va.us (Barry A. Warsaw) writes: > >>>>>>> "CK" == Christopher Key <skip@fohnix.metronet.com> writes: > >> >> When they use the term "software", they mean source. A lot of >> >> people are confused because they take "free software" to mean >> >> "binaries I can get for no price". > >How can people be so unreasonable?! Imagine! "Free" means "free". >There should be a law... > >> CK> Here's the problem. A compiled binary _is_ still software, >> CK> and the FSF can't change that. Just because the FSF doesn't >> CK> like binary-only distributions doesn't change that. I think >> CK> very few people other than a few activists would have a >> CK> problem considering a binary that contained no restrictions on >> CK> its usage or distribution free software. > >>What if I wanted to check a piece of software for time-bombs or other >>`anti-social' behavior, or if I want to write some enhancement, or >>patch a bug, or port it to a new OS? I am not free to do any of this >>with a binary-only distribution. > >So you can't. So if I go to a soup kitchen for a free meal, and I >expect it to taste like a meal from an expensive restaurant, it won't. >But it's still free. "Free" means "no cost". Just because you and >the FSF have decided to change the meaning of a common word doesn't >mean anyone else has to go along with it. From the Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary: (1)free: 1 a: having the legal and political rights of a citizen b: enjoying civil and political liberty <~ citizens> c: enjoying political independance or freedom from outside domination d: enjoying personal freedom: not subject to the control or domination of another 2 a: not determined by anything beyond its own nature or being : choosing or capable of choosing for itself b: determined by the choice of the actor or by his wishes <~ actions> c: made, done, or givin voluntary or spontaneously : SPONTANEOUS 3 a: exempt, relieved, or released esp. from a burdensome, noxious, or deplorable condition or obligation <~ from pain> b : not bound, confined, or detained by force <prisoner was now ~> 4 a: having no trade restriction b: not subject to government regulation c of foreign exchange: not subject to restriction or official control 5 a: having no obligations (as to work) or commitments (as to duty or custom) <I'll be ~ this evening> b: not taken up with commitments or obligations <a ~ evening> 6: having a scope not restricted by qualification <a ~ variable> 7 a (1): not obstructed or impeded: CLEAR <a ~ and open highway> (2): not being used or occupied <waved with his ~ hand> b: not hampered or restricted in its normal operation: LOOSE 8 a: not fastened <the ~ end of the rope> b: not confined to a particular position or place; also: not having a specific opponent to cover in football <a ~ safety> c: capable of moving or turning in any direction <a ~ particle> d: performed without apparatus <~ tumbling> 9 a: not parsimonious <~ spending> b: OUTSPOKEN c: availing oneself of something without stint d: FRANK, OPEN e: overly familiar or forward in action or attitude f: LICENTIOUS 10: not costing or charging anything 11 a (1): not united with, attached to, or combined with something else: SEPARATE <~ ores><a ~ surface of a bodily part> (2): FREESTANDING <a ~ column> b: chemically uncombined <~ oxygen><~ acids> c: not permanantly attached but able to move about < a ~ electron in a metal> d: capable of being used alone as a meaningful linguistic form <the word /hats/ is a ~ form> -- compare (4)BOUND(7) 12 a: not literal or exact <~ translation> b: not restricted by or conforming to conventional forms <~ skating> 13: FAVORABLE -- used of a wind blowing from a direction more than six points from straight ahead 14: not allowing slavery 15: open to all comers -- free-ly adv. Syn: FREE INDEPENDANT, AUTONOMOUS, SOVEREIGN (shared meaning element: not subject to the rule or control of another) (2)free adv 1: in a free manner 2: without charge <admitted ~> 3: with the wind more than six points from dead ahead <sailing free> (3)free vt freed; freeing 1 a: to cause to be free b: to releive or rid of what restrains, confines, restricts, or embarrases <~ a man from debt> c: DISENTANGLE, CLEAR 2(obsolete): BANISH -- fre-er n SYN: FREE, RELEASE, LIBERATE, EMANCIPATE, MANUMIT, DISCHARGE (shared meaning element: to loose from constraint or restraint) Free software isn't separately defined, but I think from the discussions here, the FSF own documents, and the GPL, the "free" in "Free Software" is more in line with 1free3, 1free4, 1free6, 1free7, 2free1 or 3free1b than 1free10 or 2free2. Since dictionaries tend to list the more common or important definitions first, and since all of the intended meanings are before the "no cost" meaning, I would claim that YOU are the one trying to bend the language to suit your needs, not the FSF. > >-- > >Ron House. USQ | A nonviolent diet is the >(house@usq.edu.au) Toowoomba, Australia. | foundation for a nonviolent world. -- bbuck@nox.cs.du.edu # http://nyx10.cs.du.edu:8001/~bbuck Buddha Buck # 85.5 Albany Street # The above opinions are mine, MINE, MINE!!! Cazenovia, NY 13035 # and you can't have them! So there!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,df448156456f4b88 X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-02-07 17:30:51 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10.cs.du.edu!not-for-mail From: bbuck@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Buddha Buck) Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: GPL - once more Date: 7 Feb 1995 18:16:13 -0700 Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci. Lines: 99 Message-ID: <3h960t$hmp@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <JH.95Jan19213306@exc.IN-Berlin.DE> <3goak0$9uo@fohnix.metronet.com> <3grb33$lo6@news.CNRI.Reston.Va.US> <house.792130774@helios> NNTP-Posting-Host: nyx10.cs.du.edu